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Jennifer03801
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Posted on Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

A Day in the Life of Joe Republican
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Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.

All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some whiny liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance -- now Joe gets it, too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries and government from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.

Its noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression. Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

Joe is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that Joe's beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees. "After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."


+ 1 = 3132
Total Fatalities - 3,131 Total Wounded - 23,417
Diseases Medical Air Transport Required - 18,704
Total Medical Air Transported - 32,544
Total Non-Mortal Casualties - 54,910
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Bubby
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Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Alex Rackley
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Jennifer03801
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Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 09:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Joe Republican was responsible for the murder of Rackley?



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Bubby
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Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 10:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

No!! Joe Liberal..
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Jennifer03801
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Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

What a silly thing for you to say.
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Aimstraight
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Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 01:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F49e64yq8lI
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Jennifer03801
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Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Such a pathetic attempt at humor I actually feel bad for Limbaugh and Coulter and for you for posting it, Mikey, Mikey. It's almost as pathetic as Bubby's Joe Liberal killed Rackley.

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Aimstraight
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Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Don't miss the show JenJen. We can LOL "Together"
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Bubby
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Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 03:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

What a silly thing for you to say....
Joe Republican was responsible for the murder of Rackley?
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Jennifer03801
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Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Why else would you post Rackley's name in this thread that's about Joe Republican?

You and Mikey Mikey have a lovely evening watching Limbaugh and Coulter, maybe toss around a few little green footballs. Princess has a hot date and won't be around to watch your fumbles.


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Bubby
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Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I think your reality check bounced...
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Jennifer03801
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Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 09:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

And bringing up a 40 year old murder case that has nothing to do with the topic is your idea of living in the real world? Youíre supposed to drink the Kool-aid, Bubby, not snort it.

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Bubby
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Posted on Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

and one of the lawyers defending one of the killers was whom? I wonder if she was snorting koolaid? I know her husband never inhaled.Mr Joe Liberal...
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Jennifer03801
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Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 04:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I don't know what you've been inhaling, Swiftboat Bubby, but Hillary wasn't one of the lawyers for the defense.

3133
Total Fatalities - 3,133 Total Wounded - 23,417
Diseases Medical Air Transport Required - 18,704
Total Medical Air Transported - 32,544
Total Non-Mortal Casualties - 54,910
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Bubby
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Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 06:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

oh thats right,she was just hanging around watching the show...snorting socialism...I have to research a little farther,but I think Bill may have pardoned one of them.Gruesome murder,don't you think? Why do you think he was killed?Because he became a Joe Conservative?
Scalded with hot water,shot in the head,and dumped in the river? Man,he must of really ticked of the Panthers.All is forgiven,go back to sleep..
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Jennifer03801
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Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 06:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

One fact that's evident to everyone who's read this thread is that you'd rather believe and spread lies about "Liberals" than do a little research and learn the truth.

Here's a little truth for your hubbly bubbly, Bubby, 3133 sent to their deaths on a pack of Bush administration lies.



Total Fatalities - 3,133 Total Wounded - 23,417
Diseases Medical Air Transport Required - 18,704
Total Medical Air Transported - 32,544
Total Non-Mortal Casualties - 54,910
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Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

and meanwhile,way out west...

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Jennifer03801
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Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Posting a pic and trying to change the topic to CYA won't hide the Kool-aid stains on your lips, Bubby.


3133 sent to their deaths on a pack of Bush administration lies.
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Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

http://andrightlyso.com/2004/11/18/a-day-in-the-life-of-joe-democrat/
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Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

I'd rather have kool aid stains,than sour grapes, such as your rhetoric...right on,Mike!!
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Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Warning: Kool-Aid drinking causes untold suffering and death.



These are your Kool-Aid stains, Bubby and Mikey Mikey.

(Message edited by jennifer03801 on February 18, 2007)
3135 sent to their deaths on a pack of Bush administration lies.
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Aimstraight
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Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.

I want to explain why I have decided, with the unanimous recommendation of my national security team, to use force in Iraq; why we have acted now; and what we aim to accomplish.

Six weeks ago, Saddam Hussein announced that he would no longer cooperate with the United Nations weapons inspectors called UNSCOM. They are highly professional experts from dozens of countries. Their job is to oversee the elimination of Iraq's capability to retain, create and use weapons of mass destruction, and to verify that Iraq does not attempt to rebuild that capability.

The inspectors undertook this mission first 7.5 years ago at the end of the Gulf War when Iraq agreed to declare and destroy its arsenal as a condition of the ceasefire.

The international community had good reason to set this requirement. Other countries possess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there is one big difference: He has used them. Not once, but repeatedly. Unleashing chemical weapons against Iranian troops during a decade-long war. Not only against soldiers, but against civilians, firing Scud missiles at the citizens of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Iran. And not only against a foreign enemy, but even against his own people, gassing Kurdish civilians in Northern Iraq.

The international community had little doubt then, and I have no doubt today, that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again.

The United States has patiently worked to preserve UNSCOM as Iraq has sought to avoid its obligation to cooperate with the inspectors. On occasion, we've had to threaten military force, and Saddam has backed down.

Faced with Saddam's latest act of defiance in late October, we built intensive diplomatic pressure on Iraq backed by overwhelming military force in the region. The UN Security Council voted 15 to zero to condemn Saddam's actions and to demand that he immediately come into compliance.

Eight Arab nations -- Egypt, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, United Arab Emirates and Oman -- warned that Iraq alone would bear responsibility for the consequences of defying the UN.

When Saddam still failed to comply, we prepared to act militarily. It was only then at the last possible moment that Iraq backed down. It pledged to the UN that it had made, and I quote, a clear and unconditional decision to resume cooperation with the weapons inspectors.

I decided then to call off the attack with our airplanes already in the air because Saddam had given in to our demands. I concluded then that the right thing to do was to use restraint and give Saddam one last chance to prove his willingness to cooperate.

I made it very clear at that time what unconditional cooperation meant, based on existing UN resolutions and Iraq's own commitments. And along with Prime Minister Blair of Great Britain, I made it equally clear that if Saddam failed to cooperate fully, we would be prepared to act without delay, diplomacy or warning.

Now over the past three weeks, the UN weapons inspectors have carried out their plan for testing Iraq's cooperation. The testing period ended this weekend, and last night, UNSCOM's chairman, Richard Butler, reported the results to UN Secretary-General Annan.

The conclusions are stark, sobering and profoundly disturbing.

In four out of the five categories set forth, Iraq has failed to cooperate. Indeed, it actually has placed new restrictions on the inspectors. Here are some of the particulars.

Iraq repeatedly blocked UNSCOM from inspecting suspect sites. For example, it shut off access to the headquarters of its ruling party and said it will deny access to the party's other offices, even though UN resolutions make no exception for them and UNSCOM has inspected them in the past.

Iraq repeatedly restricted UNSCOM's ability to obtain necessary evidence. For example, Iraq obstructed UNSCOM's effort to photograph bombs related to its chemical weapons program.

It tried to stop an UNSCOM biological weapons team from videotaping a site and photocopying documents and prevented Iraqi personnel from answering UNSCOM's questions.

Prior to the inspection of another site, Iraq actually emptied out the building, removing not just documents but even the furniture and the equipment.

Iraq has failed to turn over virtually all the documents requested by the inspectors. Indeed, we know that Iraq ordered the destruction of weapons-related documents in anticipation of an UNSCOM inspection.

So Iraq has abused its final chance.

As the UNSCOM reports concludes, and again I quote, "Iraq's conduct ensured that no progress was able to be made in the fields of disarmament.

"In light of this experience, and in the absence of full cooperation by Iraq, it must regrettably be recorded again that the commission is not able to conduct the work mandated to it by the Security Council with respect to Iraq's prohibited weapons program."

In short, the inspectors are saying that even if they could stay in Iraq, their work would be a sham.

Saddam's deception has defeated their effectiveness. Instead of the inspectors disarming Saddam, Saddam has disarmed the inspectors.

This situation presents a clear and present danger to the stability of the Persian Gulf and the safety of people everywhere. The international community gave Saddam one last chance to resume cooperation with the weapons inspectors. Saddam has failed to seize the chance.

And so we had to act and act now.

Let me explain why.

First, without a strong inspection system, Iraq would be free to retain and begin to rebuild its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs in months, not years.

Second, if Saddam can crippled the weapons inspection system and get away with it, he would conclude that the international community -- led by the United States -- has simply lost its will. He will surmise that he has free rein to rebuild his arsenal of destruction, and someday -- make no mistake -- he will use it again as he has in the past.

Third, in halting our air strikes in November, I gave Saddam a chance, not a license. If we turn our backs on his defiance, the credibility of U.S. power as a check against Saddam will be destroyed. We will not only have allowed Saddam to shatter the inspection system that controls his weapons of mass destruction program; we also will have fatally undercut the fear of force that stops Saddam from acting to gain domination in the region.

That is why, on the unanimous recommendation of my national security team -- including the vice president, the secretary of defense, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the secretary of state and the national security adviser -- I have ordered a strong, sustained series of air strikes against Iraq.

They are designed to degrade Saddam's capacity to develop and deliver weapons of mass destruction, and to degrade his ability to threaten his neighbors.

At the same time, we are delivering a powerful message to Saddam. If you act recklessly, you will pay a heavy price. We acted today because, in the judgment of my military advisers, a swift response would provide the most surprise and the least opportunity for Saddam to prepare.

If we had delayed for even a matter of days from Chairman Butler's report, we would have given Saddam more time to disperse his forces and protect his weapons.

Also, the Muslim holy month of Ramadan begins this weekend. For us to initiate military action during Ramadan would be profoundly offensive to the Muslim world and, therefore, would damage our relations with Arab countries and the progress we have made in the Middle East.

That is something we wanted very much to avoid without giving Iraq's a month's head start to prepare for potential action against it.

Finally, our allies, including Prime Minister Tony Blair of Great Britain, concurred that now is the time to strike. I hope Saddam will come into cooperation with the inspection system now and comply with the relevant UN Security Council resolutions. But we have to be prepared that he will not, and we must deal with the very real danger he poses.

So we will pursue a long-term strategy to contain Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction and work toward the day when Iraq has a government worthy of its people.

First, we must be prepared to use force again if Saddam takes threatening actions, such as trying to reconstitute his weapons of mass destruction or their delivery systems, threatening his neighbors, challenging allied aircraft over Iraq or moving against his own Kurdish citizens.

The credible threat to use force, and when necessary, the actual use of force, is the surest way to contain Saddam's weapons of mass destruction program, curtail his aggression and prevent another Gulf War.

Second, so long as Iraq remains out of compliance, we will work with the international community to maintain and enforce economic sanctions. Sanctions have cost Saddam more than $120 billion -- resources that would have been used to rebuild his military. The sanctions system allows Iraq to sell oil for food, for medicine, for other humanitarian supplies for the Iraqi people.

We have no quarrel with them. But without the sanctions, we would see the oil-for-food program become oil-for-tanks, resulting in a greater threat to Iraq's neighbors and less food for its people.

The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world.

The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government -- a government ready to live in peace with its neighbors, a government that respects the rights of its people. Bringing change in Baghdad will take time and effort. We will strengthen our engagement with the full range of Iraqi opposition forces and work with them effectively and prudently.

The decision to use force is never cost-free. Whenever American forces are placed in harm's way, we risk the loss of life. And while our strikes are focused on Iraq's military capabilities, there will be unintended Iraqi casualties.

Indeed, in the past, Saddam has intentionally placed Iraqi civilians in harm's way in a cynical bid to sway international opinion.

We must be prepared for these realities. At the same time, Saddam should have absolutely no doubt if he lashes out at his neighbors, we will respond forcefully.

Heavy as they are, the costs of action must be weighed against the price of inaction. If Saddam defies the world and we fail to respond, we will face a far greater threat in the future. Saddam will strike again at his neighbors. He will make war on his own people.

And mark my words, he will develop weapons of mass destruction. He will deploy them, and he will use them.

Because we're acting today, it is less likely that we will face these dangers in the future.

Let me close by addressing one other issue. Saddam Hussein and the other enemies of peace may have thought that the serious debate currently before the House of Representatives would distract Americans or weaken our resolve to face him down.

But once more, the United States has proven that although we are never eager to use force, when we must act in America's vital interests, we will do so.

In the century we're leaving, America has often made the difference between chaos and community, fear and hope. Now, in the new century, we'll have a remarkable opportunity to shape a future more peaceful than the past, but only if we stand strong against the enemies of peace.

Tonight, the United States is doing just that. May God bless and protect the brave men and women who are carrying out this vital mission and their families. And may God bless America.
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I guess uncle Bill is a Kool-Aid drinker too Jen Jen.
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Posted on Sunday, February 18, 2007 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

If The Bush Administration Lied About WMD, So Did These People -- Version 3.0
by John Hawkins
Since we haven't found WMD in Iraq, a lot of the anti-war/anti-Bush crowd is saying that the Bush administration lied about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Well, if they're going to claim that the Bush administration lied, then there sure are a lot of other people, including quite a few prominent Democrats, who have told the same "lies" since the inspectors pulled out of Iraq in 1998. Here are just a few examples that prove that the Bush administration didn't lie about weapons of mass destruction...

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others

"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002

"Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction." -- Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002

"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002

"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America&#65533;s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." -- John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002

"Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States." -- Joe Lieberman, August, 2002

"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction." -- Patty Murray, October 9, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam&#65533;s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq&#65533;s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration&#65533;s policy towards Iraq, I don&#65533;t think there can be any question about Saddam&#65533;s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002


John Hawkins
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3135 sent to their deaths on a pack of Bush administration lies.
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A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE DEMOCRAT


Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare
his morning coffee. With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his daily
medication - his heart is bad, lungs are fowled up and heís ready to die from his
smoking and heavy drinking - and partying- but that is his right because he is
still free to make his own decisions - (for the time being).

His medications arenít safe anymore because some of his brother liberals
fought to insure their price was way low. So they are now imported from all
over the world. (that is IF he can get his meds since his liberals fought so
hard to make sure the price was low, the US med companies have closed up due to
high production costs and many frivolous law suits brought about by the
unfettered gouging attorneys.) Those driveling Republicans tried to pass tort reform
but his brother libbies made sure their favorite attorneys still have all
their freedom to gouge the med companies and Drs. Thatís progress.

All but $10 of his medications were paid for by his employerís medical
plan because some of his liberal union workers fought their employers for
paid medical insurance. The stupid republicans had cut taxes on everyone. But
unfortunately his medical insurance has been canceled due to the insurance
company going bankrupt. His libbie brothers lawyer law suits again. His salary
has gone down too because of his company having to pay higher and higher
amounts just to give basic benefits. And the taxes on his company has been raised so
high that they almost went under while his taxes are steadily creeping up
too. But his president assures him that this is OK to do since corporations are
evil.

He was going to eat breakfast but canít - since his wife left him, he has to
take the kids to school on his bicycle. He had to give up the SUV. They were
made illegal because they guzzle gas and the US ran out of gas because we are
no longer allowed to do drilling in sacred ground (earth). His wife left him
when she decided that she no longer needed him and decided to marry her
girlfriend. Family values have changed now so thatís no problem. That is after she had
an abortion - but that saved him some child support so thatís a good thing.
If he dies, his heirs will now include his wifeís new wife. This is only fair.

Heíll grab a veggie burger on the way in to town. Bacon and eggs are no
longer eaten in America. Theresa has allowed PETA and some other libbie foundations
to give all animals rights above humans so there are huge fines for eating
animals or their products. His kids now take a pill to compensate for the milk
they use to drink. His dog was taken from him as well - itís now illegal to put
an animal in slavery even if they did enjoy it. Oh well, heíll make it out in
the world on his own.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is
properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total
contents because some liberal fought for his right to know
what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. But unfortunately
it is empty. Due to the new laws that shampoo canít contain the dangerous
chemical ďsoapĒ, so it has been recalled.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he
breathes is clean because his environmentalist liberals fought
for laws to stop industries from polluting our air no matter how hard the
republicans fought it. So therefore there are no more chemical plants operating
to pollute the air. And all gasoline automobiles have been outlawed. Only solar
or electric power is allowed. But electric power is under fire because of the
burning of coal (which is an earth product and therefore protected).

Joe begins his work day. He had a good job with excellent pay,
medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some
liberal union members fought and died for these working
standards. Joe has a bad day and gets a pink slip because his company is
finally closing due to the enormous tax hikes and restrictions that have been put
on the company. They can no longer afford to pay anyone. But thatís OK,
because the government has announced that they are going to take over most of the
companies so everyone can go back to work. They will also pay his salary but it
will be just what he needs to live on. But not to worry, all his medical has
now also been governmentalized so it will all be free now along with his meds.

He canít speak of God in public but he still prays in his heart. Many have
lost their jobs when it was found that they speak of God. At the very least he
would be sent south to live on a worker farm. No immigrants are allowed in so
many Americans have been sent there to work as migrant workers. But thatís OK
because someone has to do it - and most of them ARE in the RED states.

If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, heíll get a worker
compensation for his time off but only if it is approved by the government
first. They know best.

Its noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some
bills. Joeís deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some liberal
wanted to protect Joeís money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking
system before the Great Depression. Unfortunately the bank tells him that
interest rates have gone up to 28% so this will cause his mortgage payment to
triple. But thatís OK because they promise that soon no one will have to pay for
housing - all will be subsidized by the government. Whew.

Joe no longer has to pay his below-market federal student loan because some
liberal decided that Joe and the government could handle Joeís money better
than he can. His Social Security account has been taken over for his own good
too. But thatís a good thing because the government will care for him.

Since the government has now expanded their control over educational loans
and mortgages, they have decided to change all housing into subsidized housing.
He has to get rid of his garden and lay concrete in his yard - and NO
basketball hoop. He also cannot have a room mate because that would put him over the
limit for a single family unit. He can no longer play loud music and must only
watch CBS on the TV. Football games are allowed on Sundays only. The free
networks on cable and satellite have been sited as being against government
opinions so have been blocked. He also must not display his American flag or heíll
be deemed a ďflag waverĒ and no one will speak to him again.

Joe is finally home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at
his farm home in the country. He was going to get in his car for the drive.
His
car was among the safest in the world because some liberal fought for car
safety standards. However safe as it was, it was recalled by the government for
emissions standard violations. Those uninformed republicans even tried to block
the recall. It is too far to ride on his bike so he will call his dad and see
how heís doing out on the farm if he can get a free phone line. The phone
company has put a limit on 3 calls a day so the lines will be free for government
calls to Hollywood stars. Now that all his fatherís livestock has been
released, he makes a meager living by growing broccoli. But he canít sell it
commercially because he is not a federally licensed farm. Food could contain germs
that could make a person sick. So he sells it to his neighbors in secret. If he
gets caught he will be imprisoned. Since all guns were confiscated by the
government, Joeís father must carry a club with him to defend himself against so
many wild animals that are now free roaming. They are so overpopulated since
the hunting ban was put on that it is no longer safe to walk about outside.

He finally gets a ride to his fatherís home. His was the third generation to
live in the house financed by Farmersí Home Administration because bankers
didnít want to make rural loans. The house didnít have electricity
until some big-government liberal (FDR)stuck his nose where it didnít
belong and demanded rural electrification. However the electricity has just
been cut off due to his father not being able to pay for it. His social
security has ended and since none of it was set aside in a private sector, the
government has taken it all. His pension is no longer because his company went
bankrupt.

Joe heads back home in his friendís electric car for the ride home, and tries
to turn on a radio talk show. The radio only spews out information with their
version of the news, government information and weather. The talk shows have
been deemed derogatory toward the best interest of the country and have been
taken off.

Joe hears from his friend that all his freedoms that were fought so hard for
by the brave Americans through two centuries was all for naught. All the
troops are home but had nothing to do so the military is being disbanded as well.
He canít understand a word as he flips through the stations. You see they are
all broadcasting in French or Arabic.

Deb in Oklahoma
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http://pointfiveblog.com:80/index.php/2007/02/1194
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3136



3136 sent to their deaths on a pack of Bush administration lies.
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http://www.army.mil/medalofhonor/crandall/
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Recognize that degrading images of women in the media are linked to violence against women.

Challenge men who use sexist language and make degrading jokes about women.


3140 + 4 + 1 = 3145


Total Fatalities - 3,140 Total Wounded - 23,417
Diseases Medical Air Transport Required - 18,704
Total Medical Air Transported - 32,544
Total Non-Mortal Casualties - 54,910
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Recognize that degrading images of soldiers and men by women leads to the same.Challenge women who hide behind their feminity and use sexist language and jokes about men to express their vulnerability?
Of course the political correct thing, would be to not say anything at all....so why not just shut up?
Go take up knitting or sky diving.Great pictures of blood.You must be into the gory stuff quite a bit.I bet your favorite movie is :"Texas Chain Saw Massacre".
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You really do have a problem with being challenged, especially by a woman, don't you, Bubby?

If you want to talk politics, stick to the issues and keep your sexist jokes and sexist cartoons locked away in your jock strap drawer.




Total Fatalities - 3,145 Total Wounded - 23,417
Diseases Medical Air Transport Required - 18,704
Total Medical Air Transported - 32,544
Total Non-Mortal Casualties - 54,910
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Is there an issue in Joe liberal? I thought it was pure folderol.I don't have room in my jock strap drawer for sexist jokes and cartoons.The jock strap takes up the entire drawer.
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I don't know who this is,but she looks very familiar..could be Jane Liberal.
Could be the next president?

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The jock strap takes up the entire drawer.

HUH???? IN YOUR DREAMS, BUBS. ROFL

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mm, heated are we, im just gonna sit back and watch tha show
Travis E. Duckworth
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Want something to be really concerned about????
What is your kid listening to?
Check it out on google..

They Sold Their Souls For Rock N' Roll (Part1of4) - Google Video

They Sold Their Souls For Rock N' Roll (Part2of4) - Google Video

They Sold Their Souls For Rock N' Roll (Part3of4) - Google Video

They Sold Their Souls For Rock N' Roll (Part4of4) - Google Video
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Marine from Mich. on first tour killed in Iraq
A 20-year-old Marine from western Michigan was killed by hostile action during his first tour of duty in Iraq. Brett Witteveen of Shelby died Sunday, according to his Grand Rapids-based company.

A Marine assigned to Multi-National Force-West was killed while conducting combat operations in Al Anbar Province.

Nineteen-year-old Army Private Kelly Youngblood was killed Sunday just 16 days after arriving in Iraq. His stepfather says Youngblood was shot and killed as he exited a tank

3140 + 4 + 1 + 3 = 3148
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This is truly disheartening. May these brave young soldiers rest in peace. May thier families and friends find comfort in the Lord. It seems as each day passes numbers of expired soldiers increases a lot more than ever before. *sigh*
"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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When the British invaded this country,they wore red uniforms and marched in a straight line.We hid behind tree's and bush'es and attacked them constantly until they left.We are now the ones in uniform and the insurgents are hiding amongst the civilians and chosing their targets.I'm sorry for those that have given their lives for the freedom of their country.May God bless them always and in all ways.
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On average now 3 of our troops are killed and another 10 or so wounded in Iraq every day. Bush has no intention whatsoever of bringing our troops home, so itís no exaggeration to say that thereís the very real possibility that another 2000 troops will be killed and 7000 wounded before his term expires. That number will skyrocket if heís allowed to go ahead and bomb Iran. Our troops will be caught in the middle of the insanity, sitting ducks for Iranís retaliation. Time to do more than sigh, time to speak up and demand that our troops come home.

"Shouldn't the mere notion of killing and maiming men, women, and children and destroying their society be enough to disuade us from even thinking about attacking Iran. Hasn't the bloodletting in Iraq convinced anyone that war is a monstrocity and those who start them are monsters."
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Thatís exactly whatís happening in Iraq, our troops will be attacked, killed and wounded until they leave. But they didnít die for our freedom, they died for the PNAC and the Bush Administrationís lust for global domination.
"Shouldn't the mere notion of killing and maiming men, women, and children and destroying their society be enough to disuade us from even thinking about attacking Iran. Hasn't the bloodletting in Iraq convinced anyone that war is a monstrocity and those who start them are monsters."
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Funny how history repeats itself, Sir Bubby.

I've been a Republican for a long time, Jenn, and I've always stood behind President Bush in knowing we must stop this war on terrorism. I knew the only way we could do this is by fighting on 'their' soil rather than in our own backyards. I'm at a point where I feel in my heart President Bush has really lost his mind if he plans to move into Iran (although I've been told this would happen for the past year) and now it is really going to take place. We, as Americans are stuck between a rock and a hard spot. It seems this war on terrorism is going to continue until we engage in WWIII. President Bush does not have any plans to bring our troops home before he leaves office. I feel he wants to leave his presedential office with a big bang!

Lord knows I want our boys and girls to come home.
"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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Molly


By Leigh Saavedra


We wish you could have stayed
to see the valid close,
his smug smile gone,
drowned in full disgrace.

We wish you could have stayed
to see how sorrow grows,
our love for you
wet upon our faces.

Thank you, Muse and Avatar.
Without your sharp and lilting laugh
We would have found the road longer,
the wind colder,
the fight too somber..
But with you the path was home to our feet,
wrapping around them like faith,
lifting us upward,
soaring,
through a wind that told us fight
and laughter fit in the same hand.

Like Moses, you led us here, so close,
to stay and watch us from afar,
but we're almost there, Molly,
a bit heavier with your wisdom,
the strength of your vision in our hearts,
and strangely so, a bit more swift of foot.

Thank you, Molly Ivins,
for the laughter and the passion.
We're almost there,
almost there,
just one voice short...
Oh how we wish you could have stayed.

_______________________________

Leigh Saavedra, often writing under "Lisa Walsh
Thomas" is a veteran activist, having fully
re-enlisted immediately after Election 2000. While
writing in several genres over the years, she has
focussed on political papers and poems in these
difficult recent years. She appreciates comments at
leighsaavedra@yahoo.com.

"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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In what way has invading Iraq, destroying its infrastructure and killing thousands of innocent civilians on ďtheirĒ soil helped stop terrorism or made us any safer?
"Shouldn't the mere notion of killing and maiming men, women, and children and destroying their society be enough to disuade us from even thinking about attacking Iran. Hasn't the bloodletting in Iraq convinced anyone that war is a monstrocity and those who start them are monsters."
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Molly Ivins

Iraq Exit is Up to Us
The president of the United States does not have the sense God gave a duck -- so it's up to us. You and me, Bubba.

I don't know why Bush is just standing there like a frozen rabbit, but it's time we found out. The fact is WE have to do something about it. This country is being torn apart by an evil and unnecessary war, and it has to be stopped NOW.

This war is being prosecuted in our names, with our money, with our blood, against our will. Polls consistently show that less than 30 percent of the people want to maintain current troop levels. It is obscene and wrong for the president to go against the people in this fashion. And it's doubly wrong for him to send 20,0000 more soldiers into this hellhole, as he reportedly will announce next week.

What happened to the nation that never tortured? The nation that wasn't supposed to start wars of choice? The nation that respected human rights and life? A nation that from the beginning was against tyranny? Where have we gone? How did we let these people take us there? How did we let them fool us?

It's a monstrous idea to put people in prison and keep them there. Since 1215, civil authorities have been obligated to tell people with what they are charged if they're arrested. This administration has done away with rights first enshrined in the Magna Carta nearly 800 years ago, and we've let them do it.

This will be a regular feature of mine, like an old-fashioned newspaper campaign. Every column, I'll write about this war until we find some way to end it. STOP IT NOW. BAM! Every day, we will review some factor we should have gotten right.

So let's take a step back and note, for example, that before the war one of the architects of the entire policy, Paul Wolfowitz, testified to Congress that Iraq had no history of ethnic strife. Sectarian and ethnic strife is a part of the region. And the region is full of examples of Western colonial powers trying to occupy countries, take their resources and take over the administration of their people -- and failing.

The sectarian bloodbath we see daily completely refutes Wolfowitz. And now Bush has given him the World Bank to run. Wonder what he'll do there.

And let's keep in mind that when the Army arrived in Baghdad, we, the television viewers, watched footage of a bunch of enraged and joyous Iraqis pulling down the statue of Saddam Hussein, their repulsive dictator, in Firdos Square. Only one thing was wrong. The event was staged. Taking down the statue was instigated by a Marine colonel, and a PSYOP (psychological operations) unit made it appear to be a spontaneous show of Iraqi joy.

When we later saw the whole square where the statue was located, only 30 to 40 people were there (U.S. soldiers, press and some Iraqis -- and one of several U.S. tanks present pulled the statue down with a cable). We, the television viewers, saw the square being presented as though the people of Iraq had gone into a frenzy, mobbed the square and spontaneously pulled down the statue. Fake images and claims have been a part of this fiasco from the beginning.

We need to cut through all this smoke and mirrors and come up with an exit strategy, forthwith. The Democrats have yet to offer a cohesive plan to get us out of this mess. Of course, it's not their fault -- but the fact is we need leaders who are grown-ups and who are willing to try to fix it. Bush has ignored the actual grown-ups from the Iraq Study Group and the generals and all other experts who are nearly unanimous in the opinion that more troops will not help.

So, like I said, it's up to you and me, Bubba. We need to make sure that the new Congress curbs executive power, which has been so misused, and asserts its own power to make this situation change. Now.

To find out more about Molly Ivins and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate web page at www.creators.com.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

The Iraq Effect: War Has Increased Terrorism Sevenfold Worldwide

http://www.motherjones.com/news/featurex/2007/03/iraq_effect_1.html


"Shouldn't the mere notion of killing and maiming men, women, and children and destroying their society be enough to disuade us from even thinking about attacking Iran. Hasn't the bloodletting in Iraq convinced anyone that war is a monstrocity and those who start them are monsters."
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 08:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

In order to zero in on The Iraq Effect, we focused on the rate of terrorist attacks in two time periods: September 12, 2001, to March 20, 2003 (the day of the Iraq invasion), and March 21, 2003, to September 30, 2006. Extending the data set before 9/11 would risk distorting the results, because the rate of attacks by jihadist groups jumped considerably after 9/11 as jihadist terrorists took inspiration from the events of that terrible day.

We first determined which terrorist organizations should be classified as jihadist. We included in this group Sunni extremist groups affiliated with or sympathetic to the ideology of Al Qaeda. We decided to exclude terrorist attacks by Palestinian groups, as they depend largely on factors particular to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Our study draws its data from the MIPT-RAND Terrorism database (available at terrorismknowledgebase.org), which is widely considered to be the best publicly available database on terrorism incidents. RAND defines a terrorist attack as an attack on a civilian entity designed to promote fear or alarm and further a particular political agenda. In our study we only included attacks that caused at least one fatality and were attributed by RAND to a known jihadist group. In some terrorist attacks, and this is especially the case in Iraq, RAND has not been able to attribute a particular attack to a known jihadist group. Therefore our study likely understates the extent of jihadist terrorism in Iraq and around the world.

Our study yields one resounding finding: The rate of terrorist attacks around the world by jihadist groups and the rate of fatalities in those attacks increased dramatically after the invasion of Iraq. Globally there was a 607 percent rise in the average yearly incidence of attacks (28.3 attacks per year before and 199.8 after) and a 237 percent rise in the average fatality rate (from 501 to 1,689 deaths per year). A large part of this rise occurred in Iraq, which accounts for fully half of the global total of jihadist terrorist attacks in the post-Iraq War period. But even excluding Iraq, the average yearly number of jihadist terrorist attacks and resulting fatalities still rose sharply around the world by 265 percent and 58 percent respectively.

And even when attacks in both Afghanistan and Iraq (the two countries that together account for 80 percent of attacks and 67 percent of deaths since the invasion of Iraq) are excluded, there has still been a significant rise in jihadist terrorism elsewhere--a 35 percent increase in the number of jihadist terrorist attacks outside of Afghanistan and Iraq, from 27.6 to 37 a year, with a 12 percent rise in fatalities from 496 to 554 per year.

Of course, just because jihadist terrorism has risen in the period after the invasion of Iraq, it does not follow that events in Iraq itself caused the change. For example, a rise in attacks in the Kashmir conflict and the Chechen separatist war against Russian forces may have nothing to do with the war in Iraq. But the most direct test of The Iraq Effect--whether the United States and its allies have suffered more jihadist terrorism after the invasion than before--shows that the rate of jihadist attacks on Western interests and citizens around the world (outside of Afghanistan and Iraq) has risen by a quarter, from 7.2 to 9 a year, while the yearly fatality rate in these attacks has increased by 4 percent from 191 to 198.

One of the few positive findings of our study is that only 18 American civilians (not counting civilian contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan) have been killed by jihadist groups since the war in Iraq began. But that number is still significantly higher than the four American civilians who were killed in attacks attributed to jihadist groups in the period between 9/11 and the Iraq War. It was the capture and killing of much of Al Qaedaís leadership after 9/11 and the breakup of its training camp facilities in Afghanistan--not the war in Iraq--that prevented Al Qaeda from successfully launching attacks on American targets on the scale it did in the years before 9/11.

Also undermining the argument that Al Qaeda and like-minded groups are being distracted from plotting against Western targets are the dangerous, anti-American plots that have arisen since the start of the Iraq War. Jihadist terrorists have attacked key American allies since the Iraq conflict began, mounting multiple bombings in London that killed 52 in July 2005, and attacks in Madrid in 2004 that killed 191. Shehzad Tanweer, one of the London bombers, stated in his videotaped suicide "will," "What have you witnessed now is only the beginning of a string of attacks that will continue and become stronger until you pull your forces out of Afghanistan and Iraq." There have been six jihadist attacks on the home soil of the United Statesí NATO allies (including Turkey) in the period after the invasion of Iraq, whereas there were none in the 18 months following 9/11; and, of course, the plan uncovered in London in August 2006 to smuggle liquid explosives onto U.S. airliners, had it succeeded, would have killed thousands.

Al Qaeda has not let the Iraq War distract it from targeting the United States and her allies. In a January 19, 2006 audiotape, Osama bin Laden himself refuted President Bushís argument that Iraq had distracted and diverted Al Qaeda: "The reality shows that that the war against America and its allies has not remained limited to Iraq, as he claims, but rather, that Iraq has become a source and attraction and recruitment of qualified people.... As for the delay in similar [terrorist] operations in America, [the] operations are being prepared, and you will witness them, in your own land, as soon as preparations are complete."

Ayman al Zawahiri echoed bin Ladenís words in a March 4, 2006, videotape broadcast by Al Jazeera calling for jihadists to launch attacks on the home soil of Western countries: "[Muslims have to] inflict losses on the crusader West, especially to its economic infrastructure with strikes that would make it bleed for years. The strikes on New York, Washington, Madrid, and London are the best examples."

"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Wow. This one is going well, isn't it? So, here is my hat in the ring.

Who is Bush protecting by going to Iraq? Hmmm... how many 9-11 type incidents have happened since, on our soil?

Second, those pictures of blood and bloodied children. Do you think those children won't be harmed if we leave?

Third, the oath that the young military person takes doesn't say, "go fight in popular wars only, and only if we are under attack on american soil." It says they'll obey the President of the United States. He says go, they go. End of story.
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Jonassalk6- Bush is protecting the Ameircan soil and no there haven't been any '911' incidents as of late. Yes, of course those children will be harmed if we leave, however, Saddam Hussein killed his own people before 911 this includes men, women and children pertaining to his chemical testing. Whose to say there won't be another Saddam Hussein after we pull out of Iraq? We are not a special United Nations force. Saddam is gone. Iraq is fighting in a civil war. It's not our civial war. They've always been fighting against each other dating back to biblical times. Our young men and women of the Armed Forces do not need to be involved in their civil war. Call in the United Nations to secure our world from terrorist attacks. We are not the only ones who have been attacked. Spain is now being held hostage since the terrorist bombed their metro system. They quickly pulled their troops out of Iraq. American children are suffering because their big brother or sister went to war and never came back...they hurt just as much or if not more than those bloodied children. When there is a war. Everyone is effected by it by more ways than one. Yes, normally, the young military will follow suite and obey the President's commands only IF he/she feels what he is doing is correct. Any military member has the right to refuse to go to war if they disagree with the President. Case is not closed. ...
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Jonas, I just read two of your poems and they seem to ring a bell. I'll go further than that, I'm sure I've read them before. How is that possible if you're new to this site? I have some of my poems on other sites. Could I have read your work someplace else?

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Lori Bowe had a standing rule for the past year and a half that no one was allowed to ring the doorbell at her home on Juniper Drive in Moon Township.
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The rule had become so ingrained in the neighborhood, even the mail carrier and the Schwan's delivery man knew not to push the little white circle next to the door.

As long as she never heard the two-toned ring, she knew that her son, Pfc. Matthew Bowe, was alive.

"She would yell at you if you rang that doorbell, because her worst fear was that the Army would ring the doorbell to tell her Matt had died," said Branden Ryan, Bowe's best friend.

Lori Bowe was not home Monday morning when Army representatives arrived to inform the family her 19-year-old son was killed when his medic vehicle tripped a land mine while driving through Baghdad, the explosion killing another soldier in the five-man crew as well, the family said.

The tragic news arrived in the form of a telephone call from her husband, John.

"He was a good person," Lori Bowe said between sobs Tuesday in the living room of her home, surrounded by her husband and Matt's brother and three sisters. "He would help anybody. He wanted to be a doctor. He wanted to be a pediatrician."

Her son, a 2005 graduate of Moon Area High School, enlisted in the Army to help earn money for college. He got a head start in the profession he wanted to pursue by serving as a combat medic.

"That's one of the main reasons he joined, so that he could get the education to be a doctor," John Bowe said.

The Bowes have not seen their son since he deployed for Iraq last summer. He was based at Fort Drum, N.Y., home of the 10th Mountain Division, and assigned to the 2nd Brigade combat team. His death is particularly hard for his parents to bear because they said he was supposed to be home this month on a 3Ĺ-week leave.

"Every time he had his leave, he got bumped for some reason or another," his mother said. "Somebody had a wedding anniversary that was more important or just outranked him or whatever. And he's been bumped and bumped. And he was looking forward to being home for Valentine's Day and everything."

The Bowes even kept Christmas lights hanging outside their home to give their son a taste of the holidays he did not get to celebrate with his family.

Matthew Bowe grew up in the Mooncrest neighborhood, in homes on Juniper and Oak drives. A devoted Pittsburgh Steelers fan, he played football since the first grade and although he never made it as a starter, Ryan said Bowe kept with the sport until his senior year at Moon, when he earned a spot on special teams.

Ryan said Bowe was a talented writer of fantasy stories who loved to draw and had recently started a rap group. He had enough talents to be anything he wanted, his friend said.

"That's not how he was supposed to die," Ryan, 20, said. "He was supposed to die taking a bullet for a kid or rescuing 16 people from a burning building. He could have done anything else, but he chose to help people."

Ryan said he enlisted in the Army with Bowe, but he was unable to serve with his friend because he was deaf in one ear. Ryan always expected the Army to change his friend, but when he spoke to him last month, Bowe was still the same person he knew, even continuing his interest in video games in the middle of war by asking for advice on how to beat the game "The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess."

"It didn't change him at all," Ryan said of Bowe's military service. "You couldn't make him a better person."

Bowe had a dream of one day having a family of his own. The two friends, at Bowe's insistence, took four years of child development in high school, classes mostly full of women because it involved dealing with small children. But Ryan said the kids warmed up to Bowe immediately, and vice versa.

When her son enlisted, Lori Bowe said he never expected to have to serve in Iraq because in spring 2005, he figured the war would be over by the time he completed his training. When he received his deployment orders, he was devastated, his mother said.

"Everybody was devastated," she said. "Nobody wanted - who wants their kid to go over and do something like that?"

She made him promise not to be a combat medic because she knew those soldiers often had to go into battle zones to tend the wounded. It is a promise Bowe was unable to keep.

In addition to his parents, Bowe is survived by one brother and three sisters: Amanda, 17; John, 15; Megan, 12; and Tiffany, 8.

Asked to share thoughts of their brother, the aspiring doctor turned hero, none said a word for a few moments until little Tiffany piped up, muttering something indecipherable as she leaned into her mother's shoulder for comfort.

The mother translated the girl's words: "She misses him, and she loves him very much."

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"Shouldn't the mere notion of killing and maiming men, women, and children and destroying their society be enough to disuade us from even thinking about attacking Iran. Hasn't the bloodletting in Iraq convinced anyone that war is a monstrocity and those who start them are monsters."
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 08:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

actions speak louder than words...ouch!
"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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As for Cheney's assertion that the partial British pullout is a sign that things are going well in Iraq, Pelosi said: "If it's going so well, we'd like to withdraw our troops as well."

"Shouldn't the mere notion of killing and maiming men, women, and children and destroying their society be enough to disuade us from even thinking about attacking Iran. Hasn't the bloodletting in Iraq convinced anyone that war is a monstrocity and those who start them are monsters."
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More nations plan pull-out
By Anne Penketh
Published: 22 February 2007

Denmark announced that it would withdraw its ground troops serving under British command in Basra, as other countries review their participation in the coalition force.

Lithuania, which has 53 soldiers in Iraq serving alongside the Danish battalion, also said it was considering a pull-out.

The Romanian Defence Minister said that Bucharest would take a decision on the presence of its 600 soldiers in Iraq, mostly serving under British command, in the next few days. But President Traian Basescu, who is also under pressure to announce a withdrawal timetable, warned that a hasty pull-out of the international coalition forces "would cause chaos and the division of Iraq".

Poland has already announced that it will bring home its 900 troops by the end of the year, and Italy, Spain, Ukraine, Japan and New Zealand have already withdrawn their troops.

South Korea, which has a contingent of 2,300 troops in the northern city of Arbil, intends to withdraw half by April, and its parliament is calling for a complete pull-out by the end of the year.

Australia said yesterday that it would keep 1,400 soldiers in and around Iraq, while the Bulgarian parliament voted to keep its 155 troops beyond the expiry of their current mandate next month.

"Shouldn't the mere notion of killing and maiming men, women, and children and destroying their society be enough to disuade us from even thinking about attacking Iran. Hasn't the bloodletting in Iraq convinced anyone that war is a monstrocity and those who start them are monsters."
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Iraq leader welcomes troops' exit

Tony Blair's plan to recall 1,600 British troops from Iraq within the next few months has been welcomed by the country's president.
Jalal Talabani's spokesman said it was a "welcome catalyst" that would force Iraqi forces to take responsibility for the country's security.

It comes after Mr Blair said troop numbers would drop from 7,100 to 5,500 and possibly to 5,000 by late summer.

Remaining troops will stay into 2008, to provide back-up and secure borders.

Hiwa Osman, the Iraqi president's spokesman, said Mr Blair's announcement was a "welcome catalyst for Iraqi forces to stand on their own feet and assume security responsibilities".
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COALITION FORCES
US -132,000
UK - 7,100
South Korea - 2,300
Poland - 900
Georgia - 800
Australia - 900
Romania - 600
Denmark - 460
El Salvador - 380
Bulgaria - 150
Sources: Brookings Institution; Globalsecurity.org; media reports



"Shouldn't the mere notion of killing and maiming men, women, and children and destroying their society be enough to disuade us from even thinking about attacking Iran. Hasn't the bloodletting in Iraq convinced anyone that war is a monstrocity and those who start them are monsters."
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 11:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

This should be a 'wake up' call for our President Bush. I wonder if the batteries in his alarm clock are dead? Hm?
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One sunny day in 2008, an old man approached the White House from across Pennsylvania Avenue, where he'd been sitting on a park bench. He spoke to the Marine standing guard and said, "I would like to go in and meet with President George W. Bush."

The Marine replied, "Sir, Mr. Bush is no longer President and doesn't reside here."
The old man said, "Okay," and walked away.

The following day, the same man approached the White House and said to the same Marine, "I would like to go in and meet with President George W. Bush".

The Marine again told the man, "Sir, as I said yesterday, Mr. Bush is no longer President and doesn't reside here."
The man thanked him and again walked away . . .

The third day, the same man approached the White House and spoke to the very same Marine, saying "I would like to go in and meet with President George W. Bush."

The Marine, understandably agitated at this point, looked at the man and said, "Sir, this is the third day in a row you have been here asking to speak to Mr. Bush. I've told you already several times that Mr. Bush is not the President anymore and doesn't reside here. Don't you understand?"

The old man answered, "Oh, I understand you fine, I just love hearing your answer!"
The Marine snapped to attention, saluted, and said, "See you tomorrow"
"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 11:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post


"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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Specifically, what was it that made you, a Bush supporter, suddenly turn against him, Capri?
"Shouldn't the mere notion of killing and maiming men, women, and children and destroying their society be enough to disuade us from even thinking about attacking Iran. Hasn't the bloodletting in Iraq convinced anyone that war is a monstrocity and those who start them are monsters."
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Cheney Validates Al-Qaeda

"You cannot say as the president of the United States, 'I welcome disagreement in a time of war,' and then have the vice president of the United States go out of the country and mischaracterize a position of the speaker of the House and in a manner that says that person in that position of authority is acting against the national security of our country." -- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi responds to VP Cheney


After years of relentlessly questioning the patriotism of Democrats and critics of the Bush administration's Iraq occupation, Dick Cheney has come out of his bunker to officially declare that congressional opposition to their latest escalation would "validate al-Qaeda," presumably moving Democrats one step closer to being declared outright enemy combatants by the increasingly autocratic White House.

In an ABC interview Wednesday in Tokyo, Cheney explained that the reason other countries were abandoning the U.S. in Iraq was because the occupation was going so well. "'I look at it and see it is actually an affirmation that there are parts of Iraq where things are going pretty well,' Cheney told ABC.

'I think if we were to do what Speaker Pelosi and Congressman Murtha are suggesting, all we will do is validate the al-Qaida strategy,' Cheney said. 'The al-Qaida strategy is to break the will of the American people ... try to persuade us to throw in the towel and come home, and then they win because we quit.'

The "will of the American people," however, is under no threat from al-Qaeda, rather, their will is being actively thwarted by Bush and his republican obstructionists who have spent the months since the repudiating election - which replaced their enabling majority - ducking and dodging every effort to get them to change course and bring our troops home like voters demanded in November.

Cheney and his administration have spent the time they were expected to craft a way home for our soldiers, creating even more 'enemies' and stoking even more extremism and resistance in Iraq as they escalate the very military presence that our own intelligence agencies have repeatedly said is fueling "jihad" and recruiting more Iraqis to violent reprisals against our troops and against the new puppet Iraqi authority. Every U.S. action in the new escalation has drawn even more Iraqis into violent confrontation as the U.S./Iraqi government forces worm their way back into the shell-shocked Baghdad neighborhoods and inch their way back into the battle-torn neighborhoods in al-Anbar looking to pick a fight with the "Iraqi al-Qaeda."

As Democrats and others have repeatedly told the administration, the mandate Congress gave Bush in the original authorization in the wake of 9-11 was to apprehend the perpetrators of the attacks and bring them to justice. There was no merging of missions with the discredited Iraq diversion which postured against non-existent WMDs, mushroom clouds, and an al-Qaeda 'training camp' which was actually protected in the north against Saddam's wrath by the U.S. no-fly zone.

The actual 'war on terror' was intended by Congress to be waged in Afghanistan against the 'Taliban', and against bin-Laden's gang, not in Iraq. Democrats want our troops to come home from Iraq, but they also are demanding that Bush devote a fraction of the resources that he's squandered in Iraq, in Afghanistan against the original threat from the original suspects and accomplices of 9-11.

It doesn't take an experienced strategist to realize that al-Qaeda wants nothing more than to keep us bogged down in Iraq while they enhance their propaganda and influence from Afghanistan and beyond with impunity. They are inspiring a new generation of followers by their mere freedom from prosecution for the five years following the attacks, and by the example of U.S. aggression and imperialism which Bush and Cheney so obligingly provide by escalating their repressive Iraqi occupation.

There is nothing more 'validating' to al-Qaeda and their followers of their hatred of the U.S., than the images from Abu-Ghraib, or any of the atrocities and destruction committed by our occupying forces, either deliberate or collateral as they are commanded by the White House to press on. No one in the U.S. has enabled al-Qaeda more than Bush in his blundering invasion and occupation of Iraq which fractured the historic coalition which came together after the 9-11 attacks, and in his squandering of the support he got for his Iraq diversion as it became clear he intended to own Iraq rather than rescue the sovereign nation for Iraqis.

Now, as Bush and Cheney are in their last stand in Iraq to cow and intimidate Iraqis into accepting the autocratic rule of the new U.S. junta, everyone who opposes their swaggering advance is subject to their branding with the al-Qaeda moniker. It's of little matter to Cheney and his White House that they are the main promoters of the erstwhile rebels, both in Iraq and beyond, with their insistence that every resistance to their strident aggression abroad is a bump-up in prestige for their convenient al-Qaeda nemesis.

I wonder what the weather's like in Guantanamo?

"Shouldn't the mere notion of killing and maiming men, women, and children and destroying their society be enough to disuade us from even thinking about attacking Iran. Hasn't the bloodletting in Iraq convinced anyone that war is a monstrocity and those who start them are monsters."
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 11:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

War is inevitable. "There must be an opposition in all things"
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

What's the weather like in Syria?

Syria Arming Up
Syria has embarked on a program to bolster its military after the war last summer in Lebanon, Ha'aretz reported this morning and repeated by the AP. They have begun acquiring heavy weapons from the Russians and the Iranians, including medium-range missiles that threaten just about every possible target in Israel:

Damascus has large numbers of surface-based missiles and long-range rockets, including the Scud-D, capable of reaching nearly any target in Israel, the report said, and the Syrian navy has received new Iranian anti-ship missiles.
Haaretz also said Russia was about to sell Syria thousands of advanced anti-tank missiles, despite Israeli charges that in the past Syria has transferred those missiles to Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon.

Syrian officials did not immediately comment on the Israeli reports, but President Bashar Assad said in a television interview immediately after the fighting that Syria was preparing to defend itself. Israeli defense officials confirmed that Syria had ordered new stocks of the anti-tank weapons after noting Hezbollah's successful use of them against Israeli armor in last summer's fighting in south Lebanon.

Syria also ordered new supplies of surface-to-sea missiles after Hezbollah used one to hit an Israeli warship, killing four crewmen, off the Lebanese coast last July, according to the officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media.


The two nations remain at war, although they have not fought it for decades. The Syrians want the Golan Heights back, and the Israelis want the Syrians to stop funding and supplying Hezbollah. The new weapons systems, in fact, seem ideal for that kind of arms transfer, the kind specifically prohibited by UN Security Council Resolution 1701.

It comes as no great shock that the Iranians have begun supplying Syria with more materiel. After all, the Iranians need the money, and they have a tight military alliance with Damascus. Both of them run Hezbollah as a joint project, and the eventual destination of these systems can hardly be doubted.

More surprising, or at least disappointing, is the Russian participation in Syria's distribution channel to Hassan Nasrallah. After all, they signed off on 1701, and they have to know who will benefit from these weapons sales. It appears that Putin once again has determined that the enemies of the West are his friends, despite the Islamist connections to the insurgencies in the Caucasus. It's really not much of a surprise to see Moscow taking the side of terrorists and totalitarians, although it should embarrass the Russians themselves.

Bashar Assad recently told Diane Sawyer that the US should engage with Syria to establish a peaceful Iraq. This is the same peace he has in mind for Lebanon and Israel. Until Syria stops being a mule for terrorists, they have no business at the table of a serious peace conference, and neither do Iran and Russia.
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No doubt on the inevitable part, but that in no way makes this one just.

Those two poems of yours I mentioned, you sent them down the memoryhole. Not to worry, the thought police remember everything.


"Shouldn't the mere notion of killing and maiming men, women, and children and destroying their society be enough to disuade us from even thinking about attacking Iran. Hasn't the bloodletting in Iraq convinced anyone that war is a monstrocity and those who start them are monsters."
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Funny how history repeats itself, Sir Bubby.

Jen~ I've been a Republican for a long time, Jenn, and I've always stood behind President Bush in knowing we must stop this war on terrorism. I knew the only way we could do this is by fighting on 'their' soil rather than in our own backyards. I'm at a point where I feel in my heart President Bush has really lost his mind if he plans to move into Iran (although I've been told this would happen for the past year) and now it is really going to take place. We, as Americans are stuck between a rock and a hard spot. It seems this war on terrorism is going to continue until we engage in WWIII. President Bush does not have any plans to bring our troops home before he leaves office. I feel he wants to leave his presedential office with a big bang!

Lord knows I want our boys and girls to come home.

I've been a LONG TIME Republican, lord knows. However, my main man on the hill has been acting very shady and I don't play that. When I get to feeling better I am going to go to the townhall and change my political party to INDEPENDENT. There is one big mess up on that hill of ours and it needs to repent and be saved. The democrats are moving like turtles on a treadmill never getting anywhere. BRING OUR TROOPS HOME. LEAVE THE CLEAN UP TO THE UNITED NATIONS SPECIAL FORCES AND DON'T MESS WITH IRAN, PRES. BUSH, IT AINT'S TEXAS! LEAVE THOSE PERSIAN BOYS ALONE!
"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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Res. 242

Semper Fi
3140 + 4 + 1 + 3 +2 = 3150
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I love my flag, my country, I love to be an American, the land of the brave and the home of the free. Let us stand as one and hear freedom ring!

http://www.brownielocks.com/JohnWayneLoveAmerica.html

"Why I Love America" Narrated by John Wayne.
Written by John Mitchum 1973

"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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RES.42 IS AS WORTHLESS AS THE PAPER IT WAS WRITTEN ON....capslock reload...anything the U.N. puts together is no more important than wall paper at a Conoco station.

Semper Fi? From You?...no way!
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"America The Beautiful"

(lyrics by Katherine Lee Bates;
music composed by Samuel A. Ward --
more history on the poem and music)
O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!

America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!
O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern impassion'd stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness.

America! America!
God mend thine ev'ry flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law.

O beautiful for heroes prov'd
In liberating strife,
Who more than self their country loved,
And mercy more than life.

America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness,
And ev'ry gain divine.

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears.

America! America!
God shed His grace on thee,
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea.


A Little Bit of History....
The lyrics to this beautiful song were written by Katharine Lee Bates (1859-1929) an instructor at Wellesley College, Massachusetts, after an inspiring trip to the top of Pikes Peak, Colorado, in 1893. Her poem, America the Beautiful first appeared in print in The Congregationalist, a weekly journal, on July 4, 1895. Ms. Bates revised the lyrics in 1904 and again in 1913. In addition to those changes in the words, it is notable that the poem was not always sung to the tune presented on this website ("Materna," composed by Samuel A. Ward in 1882, nearly a decade before the poem was written). In fact, for two years after it was written it was sung to just about any popular or folk tune that would fit with the lyrics, with "Auld Lang Syne" being the most notable of those. The words were not published together with "Materna" until 1910, and even after that time, the tune to be used was challenged to some degree. For example, in 1926 the National Federation of Music Clubs held a contest to put the poem to new, reportedly "less somber," music, but no other entry was determined to be more acceptable. Before her death in 1929, Ms. Bates never indicated publicly which music she liked best, but it now appears likely that America the Beautiful will forever be associated with "Materna."




"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/un/un242.htm

The Avalon Project at Yale Law School
United Nations Security Council Resolution 242
NOVEMBER 22, 1967
The Security Council,

Expressing its continuing concern with the grave situation in the Middle East,

Emphasizing the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war and the need to work for a just and lasting peace in which every State in the area can live in security,

Emphasizing further that all Member States in their acceptance of the Charter of the United Nations have undertaken a commitment to act in accordance with Article 2 of the Charter,

Affirms that the fulfillment of Charter principles requires the establishment of a just and lasting peace in the Middle East which should include the application of both the following principles:

Withdrawal of Israeli armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;

Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgement of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force;

Affirms further the necessity

For guaranteeing freedom of navigation through international waterways in the area;

For achieving a just settlement of the refugee problem;

For guaranteeing the territorial inviolability and political independence of every State in the area, through measures including the establishment of demilitarized zones;

Requests the Secretary General to designate a Special Representative to proceed to the Middle East to establish and maintain contacts with the States concerned in order to promote agreement and assist efforts to achieve a peaceful and accepted settlement in accordance with the provisions and principles in this resolution;

Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Security Council on the progress of the efforts of the Special Representative as soon as possible.

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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 02:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Amen, Caprichos!!

(((hugs)))

Ricky
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 02:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

242
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"The Meaning of Resolution 242"

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/meaning_of_242.html
"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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*SEMPER FIDELIS*
"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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You want us to bring the war back home?


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Rankle: to burn or to inflame your soul.

As Tyler Perry's Mabel 'Madea" Smith would say:
"HELL NO!"

LOL. Bubby you are such a cute silly patilly.

As Charlie Daniels would sing: "Just leave the good 'ol boys alone!"

Dear Father in heaven:

Please bring our troops home safe and sound all in one piece. This war has been going on much too long long. I know you understand completely as many of your followers have been battling it out with Lucifer for many a year now with their own Armor of God majestically singing 'Onward Christian Soldier'....Oh, please, St. Francis and our dear Father in heaven...hear our prayer...my prayer...whomever attaches their heart to this...this prayer has been lifted up to you. I ask this in the name of your one and only son, the big JC. Amen.
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Underneath "America The Beautiful" posted are two pictures. One of the Royal Marines and the other is of our American 'Regal' Marines.

Good guess Mr. Earl...
"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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I always enjoyed John Wayne and his rendition is awesome.Thanks for sharing,lady Cappy...
Semper Fi indeed
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Total Fatalities - 3,151 Total Wounded - 23,417
Diseases Medical Air Transport Required - 18,704
Total Medical Air Transported - 32,544
Total Non-Mortal Casualties - 54,910
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I use to write like that in my younger days,but then I was high on kool-aid and my Hebrew prof was from Palestine,Texas.He swaggered a lot,until I showed him my jock drawer.He was belittled,you might say.He gave up teaching and joined the rodeo in Fort Worth.

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the thought police are coming to get me y'all. watch out. and apparantly, from her "semper fi" comment, she's a Marine...

and bubby, i haven't addressed you yet. i do enjoy your pictures. they humor me. but one, tinted with sarcasm, is serious. either the US takes the fight somewhere else, or it'll be fought here.
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Hey Jonas,which one was tinted with sarcasm?
The French Monkeyman with his surrender
flag or Hillary?I can't imagine me tinting anything.
I know the war will be fought
here eventually.Just as soon as we bring our troops home.
We are too close to the
problem in Iraq,and they realize we can
strike there,swiftly and violently
if another 9-11 happens here.
Thanks to the Libs,it will happen here.
Better get your shelter ready
....time to MAN up!!

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OMG! You're not going to believe where I found those two poems Jonas posted then deleted, the ones I said I was sure I'd read before.
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Bubby,
Ha ha. Trust me, I'm on your side. I love your comments and pics. Just was trying to help point out to the libbys that by withdrawing our troops, we may as well just build a sea wall and hope no one tears it down. but, stealing from A Few Good Men, they aren't ready to stand on that wall. Word is, Bubby, you stood that wall, and for that I thank you.
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Thanks Jonas.This thread is much like a soap opera,and sometimes the players work under camouflage and concealment...sort of like a double breasted foxhole with built in camouflage, if you get my drift.It's like a trip wire for conservatives,and the squad leader working point,has to insure the rest of the team isn't blown to hell and back by another liberal hand grenade.So,I will be at a trail now,and moseying back to the world for some R&R.Shine on,Jonas.
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I punched NO so many times,that I have now acquired 59 lap tops and more to follow...:-)
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Posted on Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 10:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

http://www.terrorismawareness.org/know-about-jihad/
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NEW PREAMBLE TO THE CONSTITUTION
This is probably the best e-mail I've seen in a long, long time.

The following has been attributed to State Representative
Mitchell Aye from GA. This guy should run for President one day...
"We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to
help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more
riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings
of debt-free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren,
hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines
for the terminally whiny, guilt ridden, delusional, and other bed-wetters.
We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people are
confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a Bill of
NON-Rights."

ARTICLE I:
You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or any other
form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but No
one is guaranteeing anything.
ARTICLE II:
You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is
Based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You
may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc.; But
the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.
ARTICLE III:
You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a
screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the tool
Manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.
ARTICLE IV:
You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are
the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in
need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation
of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the
Creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes. (This one is my pet
peeve...get an education and go to work .. don't expect everyone else to take
care of you!)
ARTICLE V:
You do not have the right to free health care. That would be
nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in public
health care.
ARTICLE VI:
You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you
kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised if
the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.
ARTICLE VII:
You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob,
cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be
surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where
you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of
leisure.
ARTICLE VIII:
You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to have a
job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you
to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational
training laid before you to make yourself useful. (AMEN!)
ARTICLE IX:
You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means
that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by the way, is a lot
easier if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created by
those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.
ARTICLE X:
This is an English speaking country. We don't care where you are
from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you came
from!
(lastly....)
ARTICLE XI:
You do not have the right to change our country's history or heritage.
This country was founded on the belief in God. And yet, you are given
the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no faith at all; with
no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage
and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!!!!


If you agree, share this with a friend. No, you don't have to,
and nothing tragic will befall you if you don't. I just think it's about time
common sense is allowed to flourish. Sensible people of the United States
speak out because if you do not, who will?
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i agree with those aricles, every one except the last one, i believe we should have that freedom, in God we trust doesnt necessarily mean your God, it doesn't mean my God, if you've ever been to an alcoholics anonymous meeting you'll find that they say "a God of my own understanding." It doesn't matter which category of religion you fall under. It's the hope that their is a God watching over us. If you're Christian, that's fine, but not everyone is like you, and not everyones like me. This country is full of individuals and that should be an individual right for all of us.
Travis E. Duckworth
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Good afternoon, Sir Bubby,

The video regarding the Jihad was most intriguing and a real eye opener. It sent chills down my spine. Thank you for posting this link.

Yesterday, I was going to post the original Preamble To The Constitution Of The United States and lo and behold you've posted this E-mail with this one man's opinion that pretty much wraps up what world we are living in this 21st century. This alone is a sign of end times.

Power to you, Bubz!
"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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St. Charles man accused in arms case is indicted
By Robert Patrick
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
02/24/2007

ST. LOUIS ó A St. Charles man accused of buying automatic weapons and a Claymore mine and bargaining for grenades was indicted this week on four federal machine gun charges.

Mousa M. Abuelawi, 22, of Franjoe Court, was originally arrested Dec. 29 and charged with three counts of illegal possession or distribution of a machine gun and conspiracy to violate machine gun statutes.

The case was sealed from public view and nothing happened for weeks, until U.S. Magistrate Judge Audrey Fleissig told prosecutors on Jan. 27 that they had 30 days to indict Abuelawi or she would dismiss the charges.

Abuelawi was indicted Thursday and accused of receiving, transferring and possessing a machine gun, according to federal court documents made public Friday. Advertisement

An affidavit filed with the court by FBI Special Agent Stephen M. Smith laid out the alleged weapons purchases this way:

During November and December, Abuelawi bought two M-16s, a Heckler & Koch MP-5 fully automatic submachine gun and a Claymore mine from a government informer, not knowing they had been rigged not to work.

He also negotiated to buy a box of 30 grenades and said he wanted any guns the informer could get, "big or small." The grenades were never delivered.

The men met several times in the 5700 block of West Florissant Avenue, where Abuelawi worked. One of Abuelawi's co-workers, Thaed Abde Sumad, met with the men once, according to the indictment, and "stated he wants to buy as many explosives as possible because, 'we're going to war.'" In an interview earlier this month, Sumad said he didn't remember the comment and suggested it may have been a joke.

Sumad said the purchases were intended as a money-making venture supplying St. Louis street gangs in a turf war. Sumad said he had no role in handling the weapons and was not involved in the negotiations. Sumad said he has been interviewed by FBI agents.

Abuelawi, who is a Palestinian immigrant, is single and has no children and no assets, court documents state. He was fired by the gas station, co-workers said earlier this month.

Scott Rosenblum, one of Abuelawi's lawyers, had no comment about the indictment.
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I wonder what he wanted with automatic weapons and Claymore mines.
I bet itís for a picnic



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Why no outcry?
More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

Jim Brown

February 22, 2007

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Illegal aliens are killing more Americans than the
Iraq war, says a new report from Family Security
Matters that estimates some 2,158 murders are
committed every year by illegal aliens in the U.S. The
group says that number is more than 15 percent of all
the murders reported by the Federal Bureau of
Investigation in the U.S. and about three times the
representation of illegal aliens in the general
population.

Mike Cutler, a former senior special agent with the
U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (the
former INS), is a fellow at the Center for Immigration
Studies and an advisor to Family Security Matters
(FSM). He says the high number of Americans being
killed by illegal aliens is just part of the
collateral damage that comes with tolerating illegal
immigration.

"The military actually called for the BORTAC team, ...
the elite unit of the Border Patrol, to be detailed to
Iraq to help to secure the Iraqi border," Cutler
notes. "Now, if our military can understand that
Iraq's security depends in measure on the ability to
protect its border against insurgents and terrorists,
then why isn't our country similarly protecting our
own borders?" he asks.

"We are not five and a half years, nearly, after 9/11,
and yet our borders remain open," the Center for
Immigration Studies fellow observes. "We have National
Guardsmen assigned on the border, but it turns out
they are unarmed," he points out. "Their rules of
engagement are very simple: if armed intruders head
your way, run in the other direction."

This situation would "almost be comical if it wasn't
so tragic," Cutler asserts. "If our borders are wide
open, this means that drugs, criminals, and terrorists
are entering our country just as easily as the
dishwashers," he says.

The report from FSM estimates that the 267,000 illegal
aliens currently incarcerated in the nation are
responsible for nearly 1,300,000 crimes, ranging from
drug arrests to rape and murder. Such statistics,
Cutler contends, debunk the claim that illegal
immigration is a victimless crime. "Then we even have
another problem," he adds, "and that's the Visa Waiver
Program."

The federal government's Visa Waiver Program enables
nationals of certain countries to travel to the United
States for tourism or business for stays of 90 days or
less without obtaining a visa. According to the U.S.
State Department website, the waiver program was
established in 1986 with the objective of "eliminating
unnecessary barriers to travel," stimulating America
's tourism industry, and allowing the government to
focus consular resources in other areas.

Cutler says the U.S. retains the Visa Waiver Program
because the nation's travel, tourism, and hospitality
industries want America 's borders wide open. In other
words, the former INS official contends, the nation's
security is being compromised in the name of trade

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"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake
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Yikes....must be a bug from the bug house...:-)
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As long as you do not swat Marvin, Bubz, all is cool. Buuuuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!! lol.
"When the doors of perception are cleansed, man will see things as they truly are, infinite." -Sir William Blake

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