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Bronze Dragon (Michaelwalker)
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Friday, October 28, 2005 - 01:59 pm: | 
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This has been a stellar week for the Form Over Substance challenge – or now I should say challenges! We’ve had over 100 entries in the Once Upon a Haiku challenge, good participation in the Just This Nonce challenge, while still maintaining a loyal following in the original Form Over Substance challenge.
As this week draws to a close, we want to thank everyone involved in making this possible. Namely – you! The FOS participant! Without you, this week would have never been possible, and these new challenges would have never made it off the ground. Without your support, we would not do what we do, which it to try to keep this forum and this website and community valid and important in your lives, and in ours! Ours is the greatest reward of all, to be able to share with you!
We’d also like to thank Albert for his support with the new challenges and with everything Starlite related – without him, none of this would have ever been possible!
With that said, we’re opening up this general discussion area in the FOS arena, for any comments, feedback, suggestions, etc. you may have for enhancing the FOS experience! We hope to continue this success and the joy of writing and sharing our love of good poetry, whatever form it takes!
Your FOS guides,
Michael
Myrna
Renee
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
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Timothy (02l)
Starlite Member
Username: 02l
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 10:47 am: |
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I can't help myself, I must say this-
YOU THE BOMB DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Ignore me and listen to my muse." |
Bronze Dragon (Michaelwalker)
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 11:20 am: |
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LOL - thanks so much, Tim, but trust me, I do not do this alone. 
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
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Paul (Pslater3)
Starlite Member
Username: Pslater3
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 09:37 pm: |
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Hi Michael, can I just ask what the meaning is of a "nonce" form? |
Renee (Rainspirit)
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Username: Rainspirit
| | Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 06:37 am: |
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Since the Master of FOS is out of touch for today...I will attempt to address this and he can then confirm or deny tomorrow.
The dictionary defines Nonce as: The present or particular occasion: a momentary form.
In poetry, "nonce" is a word for a rhyme scheme composed for and perhaps used on just one occasion. For example, a 14-line poem that rhymes "abcdefggfedc ba" or "abbbbbbb bbbbba," rather than the traditional sonnet rhyme schemes of "abbaabba cdecde" (the Italian sonnet), "ababcdcdefef gg" (the English or Shakespearean sonnet) or "ababbcbccdcd ee" (the Spenserian sonnet) is a nonce sonnet, because it varies wildly from the standard form.
A nonce form is one designed by a writer through his own creative purpose. If his nonce catches on, it may find itself no longer a nonce, but a grand form used by many. I hope this explanation helps. I am sure Michael will weigh in later.
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Bronze Dragon (Michaelwalker)
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Friday, December 09, 2005 - 01:32 pm: |
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Paul and others,
Renee has explained the concept of the nonce form far better than I ever could!
She is correct - a nonce form typically is a form created by a writer that is not a traditional, established form. It may be used just once or may become that writer's "style", as it were.
Thanks so much, Renee, for posting that excellent definition, and thanks Paul for the question - I'm sure you're not the only one out there wondering what it meant!
Michael
aka Bronze Dragon
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
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Bronze Dragon (Michaelwalker)
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Friday, December 16, 2005 - 10:46 am: |
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Just an FYI - My email server is down, and I don't know when it will be back online. For now, please forward any questions you have to Myrna @ kajuncutie926@aol.com or to Renee @ rains_pink_rainbow@yahoo.ca. Thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience.
Michael
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
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Bronze Dragon (Michaelwalker)
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 12:19 pm: |
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Please note: My email address is changing due to continued problems I've had. It's now:
fos.guy@gmail.com
Thanks!
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
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Bronze Dragon
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 12:23 pm: |
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Yes, please excuse the mess this weekend as we prepare to bring you three new FOS challenges, starting on Monday of next week. These challenges will be:
The Quatrain Chain Challenge - a competitive challenge in which each week the host gives a form of quatrain (4-line stanza/verse) to be used. The host will then provide a quatrain that must be included in the poem of the entries. The host picks the winner from the official entries.
The Anything Goes Challenge - a competitive challenge in which the host gives a phrase to be used in your poem, and you can write the poem in any poetry form you wish, but you must tell what form you're using. Host picks winner from official entries.
The Pantoum Kingdom - now THIS is my pet project, you might say. Many of you know I've been called many times "The Pantoum King." Well, the "King" wants to invite you to his kingdom. I'll start this chain off with an opening quatrain, and each person would then continue the pantoum, without end, eventually hopefully forming the world's longest pantoum! Can we build it? Yes we can!
You may also have noticed a change in the name of the Just This Nonce Challenge to Your Choice to Nonce or Not Challenge, or the "NoncerNot" challenge. This is simply to re-emphasize that you do not HAVE to have your own nonce form to win, but you can use a form from FOS's archives.
I hope these changes will bring new excitement to the FOS arena, and give you all more chances to enter, win, and grow as poets. Look for these new challenges starting next week!
Michael
aka Bronze Dragon
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
I like to mingle wisdom with absurdity, for isn't the idea of being wise the most absurd?
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Melissa
Starlite Member
Username: Melissapowell30
| | Posted on Friday, April 07, 2006 - 12:37 pm: |
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I think that sounds pretty fun to me!!
I am not chasing anyone elses shadow or living anyone elses dream
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Timothy
Starlite Member
Username: 02l
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 04:43 pm: |
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Sir Dragon, I would just like to say that Pantoum writings is great! I am addicted already. -02L
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"Dragons are ok as long as they respect the knight who slays them." |
Ken
Starlite Member
Username: Lovemepoetry
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2006 - 07:47 pm: |
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There was a dragon in pain
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Who decided to try poetry again
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He sat up on all fours
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Forgot to close the doors
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And he was never heard of again
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That is what happens to dragons that promise something and then _____________ out
Currently I am working on a 1500 acre tract in Tenn and need CALTALPA seeds to replant and create the needed bio-diversity also I need TURKS HEAD oak acorns ----any help will be appeciated by mother nature------currently the deer and wild turkey are in large numbers and the project is 80 % complete
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Bronze Dragon
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 07:26 am: |
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LOL - Tim and Ken, Ken and Tim... you guys...
And thank you, Tim. Pantoums are addictive, for sure. But why you gotta keep on the Dragon thing?
And Ken - are you threatening me? LOL! And I'm still considering the limerick chain... be patient, my friend!
Michael
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
I like to mingle wisdom with absurdity, for isn't the idea of being wise the most absurd?
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Ken
Starlite Member
Username: Lovemepoetry
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 07:42 am: |
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I have heard that song before
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It was sung before I learned the score
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It said---patience my lad---or you will wear a sore
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And then I swore and swore and swore
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Consideration _____________? That is not a conclusion
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All it is ---is a delusion
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A delay to increase my confusion
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Beware----I just might start a revolution
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Unless you come to the right conclusion
Currently I am working on a 1500 acre tract in Tenn and need CALTALPA seeds to replant and create the needed bio-diversity also I need TURKS HEAD oak acorns ----any help will be appeciated by mother nature------currently the deer and wild turkey are in large numbers and the project is 80 % complete
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Ken
Starlite Member
Username: Lovemepoetry
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 07:48 am: |
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HEAR YE ! HEAR YE ! ALL BOLD KNIGHTS HEAR MY CALL
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A DICTORAL DRAGON IS LORD OVER ALL
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BREATHING FIRE AND BRIMSTONE IN HIS WAKE
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STOMPING ALL LYMERICKERS HE CAN OVERTAKE
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RISE UP AND DEFEND YOUR RIGHT
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BEFORE ALL LYMERICKERS ARE OUT OF SIGHT
Currently I am working on a 1500 acre tract in Tenn and need CALTALPA seeds to replant and create the needed bio-diversity also I need TURKS HEAD oak acorns ----any help will be appeciated by mother nature------currently the deer and wild turkey are in large numbers and the project is 80 % complete
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Renee
Starlite Member
Username: Rainspirit
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 08:08 am: |
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No stomping here here in FOS...this is a fun place where the rights and ideas of all count.......the dragon has decreed that as such........I am sure the Dragon will give the limerick idea complete consideration....And if feasible to do it and keep it "clean" I am very sure a Limerick chain will be created...... |
Bronze Dragon
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 08:19 am: |
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The question continues to arise over challenge eligibility. Therefore, to spell it out, I've put a note on this here: Challenge Eligibility
Michael
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
I like to mingle wisdom with absurdity, for isn't the idea of being wise the most absurd?
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Bronze Dragon
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2006 - 02:09 pm: |
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Coming Attractions!
Based upon the success of the haiku and pantoum chains, coming soon we'll be adding a limerick chain (to calm the restless natives) and a rhyming chain, or Rhyming Train. The limerick chain was suggested by Maria, among others, and I thank her for the idea. The Rhyming Train is inspired by the one recently done by AlleyKat.
Final details are being ironed out, just wanted you all to know.
Thanks!
Michael
aka Bronze Dragon
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
I like to mingle wisdom with absurdity, for isn't the idea of being wise the most absurd?
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Ken
Starlite Member
Username: Lovemepoetry
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:18 am: |
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THERE WAS A BRONZE DRAGON THAT MELTED IN A FIRE
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AS AMAZING AS IT SEEMS
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AFTER MANY LOUD SCREAMS
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HE TURNED INTO A 30 MILE SPOOL OF WIRE
Currently I am working on a 1500 acre tract in Tenn and need CALTALPA seeds to replant and create the needed bio-diversity also I need TURKS HEAD oak acorns ----any help will be appeciated by mother nature------currently the deer and wild turkey are in large numbers and the project is 80 % complete
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Bronze Dragon
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Friday, April 14, 2006 - 10:28 am: |
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Mmmmm... 'Kay.
Someone come tighten those sleeves that attach in the back, please. LOL! You're a hoot, Ken. No, really, I mean that.
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
I like to mingle wisdom with absurdity, for isn't the idea of being wise the most absurd?
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Bronze Dragon
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 12:50 pm: |
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Okay, everyone, The Limerick Line is now open for business!
Enjoy!
Michael
aka Bronze Dragon
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
I like to mingle wisdom with absurdity, for isn't the idea of being wise the most absurd?
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Bronze Dragon
Starlite Member
Username: Michaeldragon
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 01:03 pm: |
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Excitement abounds!
Thanks to Raivenne for creating thes kickass graphics for FOS! Check these out...
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
I like to mingle wisdom with absurdity, for isn't the idea of being wise the most absurd?
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Ken
Starlite Member
Username: Lovemepoetry
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 02:59 pm: |
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Mr Dragon of BRONZE
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I agree you are not the FONZE
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Nor are you an OGER stuck in the clay
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You kind sir were not made that way
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But if the full story be told
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Neither are you made of GOLD
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But I wish you a long rule before you grow old
Currently I am working on a 1500 acre tract in Tenn and need CALTALPA seeds to replant and create the needed bio-diversity also I need TURKS HEAD oak acorns ----any help will be appeciated by mother nature------currently the deer and wild turkey are in large numbers and the project is 80 % complete
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Bronze Dragon
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 07:36 am: |
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A word on awards...
I've been very busy the past week, and will be for some weeks to come. During that time, either Renee or Myrna will be hosting FOS - depending upon who is the host for the original Form Over Substance Challenge for the week, please email any questions you have to them.
As to the awards for the challenges - the Bronze Yardstick, the Blank Parchment Award, and the Draconian Pen - if either Renee or Myrna do not send them out, I will follow up and send them to you upon my return full time to hosting. I'm sorry for the delay.
Michael
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
I like to mingle wisdom with absurdity, for isn't the idea of being wise the most absurd?
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Michaelwalker
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 07:18 am: |
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I'm attempting to move a conversation here... bear with me.
Ken posted in Once Upon a Haiku:
"NEEDED FOR THE WRITER'S WORKSHOP
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PERSONS INTERESTED IN SPECIAL FORM POETRY----NOW WE ONLY HAVE TRADITIONAL POETS THAT HAVE NOT YOUR EXPERIENCEPOETRY WORKSHOP STARTING
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Sign up and participate you are needed"
Ken - please give us more details? What workshop? Where? When? How do we participate? It sounds interesting, my friend!
Michael
aka Bronze Dragon
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
Visit my website - Poet Idiot
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Lovemepoetry
Starlite Member
Username: Lovemepoetry
| | Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 08:33 am: |
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Sir BRONZE DRAGON :
Your wish is my command--------I shall return with all the info in my hand------I plan on hiring a marching band-------and make everyone that does not sign up---- stand---the rest of my strategy is not yet planned------and my speech is not yet canned
GO to this URL----it is the unoffiial----official WRITER'S WORKSHOP THREAD=======THE ROPE IS NOT YET MANUFACTURED
http://www.thestarlitecafe.com/cgi-bin/discuss/show.cgi?2705/104825
FOR FURTHER INFO---E-MAIL ME
LOVEmePOETRY@webtv.net
____-----some teaser info
We plan to help poets with suggestions intended to improve our poetry skills---by working on poems submitted by the group-----it should help everyone----- for everyone will be able to see the changes in the poems being studied without exposing themselves---- hide behind the door if you wish----my poem will be the first one on the chopping block-------yours could be next if you wish----or you could do the chopping---or you could just read
------each poet is free to participate at the comfort level they choose------we also need leadership help ---if you have time-----i will assign you a task----which you are free to accept or reject at any time
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it will start as soon as we have a sizeable group of interested poets========otherwise it will die----life support is requested
POETRY WORKSHOP STARTING
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Sign up and participate you are needed
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Lovemepoetry
Starlite Member
Username: Lovemepoetry
| | Posted on Friday, June 02, 2006 - 09:06 am: |
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Sir Bronze Dragon and all his subjects---i spelled discus--discuss and thus the link ended up as a stink
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I will try to get the WRITER'S WORKSHOP link correct this time---if not i will do it till it works----consider this a threat or promise-----as your attitude dictates
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http://www.thestarlitecafe.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?2705/104825
POETRY WORKSHOP STARTING
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Sign up and participate you are needed
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Jennifer03801
Starlite Member
Username: Jennifer03801
| | Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 07:54 pm: |
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Attention All Poetry-Tasters and Sonneteers
The Writer's Workshop has begun!
Your are cordially invited to the Grand Opening of the Writer's Workshop as we explore Ken's "Sonnet to the Sea".
Your input and support would be greatly appreciated!
Workshop Guidelines (condensed version) are posted in the comment section of the poem for easy reference.
Here's the link, click and enjoy!
http://www.thestarlitecafe.com/poems/101/poem_8336797.html
(Message edited by jennifer03801 on June 04, 2006) |
Michaelwalker
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 12:39 pm: |
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Hey guys!
I just received a message from our own Melissa Powell. Apparently, they had a tornado come through and are out of power and phone services. She said they are okay. I do not know what damage they sustained, but let us all please keep her and her family in our thoughts.
Michael
aka Bronze Dragon
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
Visit my website - Poet Idiot and join in my Monotetra challenge.
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Michaelwalker
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 12:47 pm: |
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I just received another email from Melissa, who has been emailing me from her cell phone as they are out of power and phone service.
She said that a tree hit the back of their house and so she'll be offline for a while, but again that they are all okay.
Michael
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
Visit my website - Poet Idiot and join in my Monotetra challenge.
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Melissapowell30
Starlite Member
Username: Melissapowell30
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 04:25 pm: |
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Thanks so much Michael! We just got power and phone back on and it's 7:22 PM. Thanks for posting this. Apperntly the tornado touched down North of here 2 miles. We had large trees...100 years old down all over our little town, windows blown out of the court house. I don't know of any one who was hurt or not, but I sure don't hope there was. I am just glad I rememberd your email address was short enough to put in my husbands cell phone! BIG hugs to you my friend!!
God determines who walks into your life....it's up to you to decide who you let walk away, who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.
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Rosieswords
Starlite Member
Username: Rosieswords
| | Posted on Thursday, June 22, 2006 - 08:46 pm: |
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Thanks for letting us know Michael and
praise God you're okay, Melissa. |
Caprichos
Starlite Member
Username: Caprichos
| | Posted on Friday, June 23, 2006 - 03:59 am: |
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Yes, thank you, Michael, for keeping us posted concerning Melissa. I can only imagine how frightful the event must have been.
Melissa, dear. I'm so glad you are A-OK!
(((hugs)))
Love ya girlfriend,
~Capri~
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Michaelwalker
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Friday, July 07, 2006 - 02:20 pm: |
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Please all, indulge me a moment while I shamelessly self-promote...
My book is released!
The book is available on Amazon.com - click here to order!
The book features a section of Monotetras, and of course includes "The Traveler" - a fifteen-part epic narrative poem written in Wordsworth sestets.
Okay - moment of self-promotion over, go back to your daily lives...
Also - if any of you have published works, please feel free to post purchasing information here! We all need all the support we can get!
Michael
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
Visit my website - Poet Idiot and join in my Monotetra challenge.
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Doc_dr_wind
Starlite Member
Username: Doc_dr_wind
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 13, 2006 - 07:53 pm: |
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Dear Starlite family,
I come to you tonight with very grave news about our beloved Albert.
Albert's cancer is at stage four. It has spread to many other parts of his body. They think it has even spread to his liver, but he will need more tests to be sure.
It is inoperable. They can not remove the cancer from his lungs and other organs. They will try chemo in a couple of weeks to try to buy us a little more time. He has been told he has a couple of months to a couple of years. He will be seeking a second opinion, of course, but he has already seen some of the best doctors in the USA.
Albert wants to be very very open about all of this with all of you. He is hoping that sharing all of what he is going through may help another going through something similar.
I am so sorry to have to bring such harsh news.
As I told Albert on the phone tonight, there is always hope. Tonight we cry, tomorrow we try our best to handle what God has given us.
I ask you all to pray for Albert and his family. Also pray for his girl friend Nanci. She is with him now and he says she has been a god send.
Pray for me, too. As you know, Albert is a brother to me.
We love you all.
Tess |
Michaelwalker
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 01:39 pm: |
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By now, I'm sure that most of you have heard of the tragic passing of Anita Tafolla, the lady who began the current incarnation of the Cafe's Writing Challenges.
I am saddened by this news, as I know that she will be missed by many, and she was indeed close to so many.
Let us all keep those who cared for her in our thoughts, as these times are always difficult.
Michael
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
Use links to visit Poet Idiot or to purchase my first collection of poetry, Knowing He Must Go
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Rainspirit
Starlite Member
Username: Rainspirit
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 10:23 am: |
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Have you posted a new poem in the last week? Have you noticed the new message placed there? If not...it is pasted at the end of this post....I think it is self explanatory......and I do know not everyone is in a position to send a large donation to help out the cafe, but
If you are able to donate...please do so...
Albert needs us all more than ever before....
The message posted by Albert is as follows...it is on the confirmation page that appears when you have posted your poem:
I have deliberatley left a small part of the message out, but when you post your ppoem you will see what i have posted it the most important part of the message from Albert.
I Need Your Help!
Please don't stop commenting on our poetry.
Due to the circumstances of my new illness, I am unable to work as much as I have in the past. The Cafe has never been in more need of your help. Send us a few dollars if you can. (A few dollars goes a long way). Thank you so much for those who have already given their support. If you do not like to use credit cards, I will be happy to give you an address to mail in your donation.
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Michaeldragon
Starlite Member
Username: Michaeldragon
| | Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2007 - 10:41 am: |
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I hope that everyone will notice this and take part. This was recently posted in the General Discussion area by Renee, but I want to help get the word out:
I so rarely come here with my heart in my hand, but this is one time
I am going to make an appeal to all.
The following was taken from a local newspaper article about a child
named Shane Bernier.
Shane has leukemia and is 7 years old. He will be turning 8 on May
30th. In all likelihood, Shane will not see his 9th birthday. Shane is
trying to get in the Guinness world book of records by receiving the
most birthday cards ever. His parents do not want to receive any cards
after May 30th. He is now receiving, and opening, about 2000 cards per
day from friends all over the world.
For 51 cents you can make a child smile.....Sounds like a Kiwanis
thing to do!
If you would like to send Shane a birthday card please send to the
address below
Master Shane Bernier
Box 484
Lancaster, Ontario
E0C 1N0
Thank you all!
Michael
aka Bronze Dragon
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
Use link to purchase my first collection of poetry, Knowing He Must Go
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Dovetail
Starlite Member
Username: Dovetail
| | Posted on Sunday, June 03, 2007 - 11:34 pm: |
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Could we still send cards?
How is he doing? |
Djbbrady
Starlite Member
Username: Djbbrady
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 03:29 pm: |
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what structure of poem is the one recited by tom hanks
in the final scene of the Davinci Code?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=E2Ho2_qODFQ
aaaaaaaaax
bbbbbbbbby
cccccccccx
dddddddddy
I know it isnt a true blank verse
that structure is
aaaaaaaaaa
bbbbbbbbbb
cccccccccc
dddddddddd
thank you , Lewis |
Michaelwalker
Starlite Moderator
Username: Michaelwalker
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 06:31 am: |
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Lewis -
Not being familiar with the poem, and not having access to Youtube right now, I'm flying a bit blind here.
If the lines are iambic pentameter with alternating rhyme, as it seems they are from your description, it could be a number of forms, including a sonnet if the verse is part of a larger work.
If you have the whole text you can post for us to analyze, I'd be glad to!
Anyone else familiar with this? Any ideas?
Michael
aka Bronze Dragon
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague. ***
Use link to purchase my first collection of poetry, Knowing He Must Go
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