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Pmbulo
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Username: Pmbulo
| | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2008 - 07:18 am: | 
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Good manners?@#&!!
As usual I can see it squarely,
You’re always blocking inquiry.
But be reminded,
The discussion is not ended.
Why evade a simple question,
As though this is litigation?
Do you suppose it is etiquette,
To compel others to quit?
Talking about mannerism?
Purporting gesticulation is absent in Africanism?
Be forgiven, your incredulous folly is great
For if you were clued-up you’d regret
Why do you desire to teach me English?
Is it because my wrong spellings coerce you into anguish?
Or is it that my grammar is taunted - beckoning your abhorrence ?
You’d have saved your embracement by admit your ignorance.
Shalom! Shalom!
Ever-loving,
Potpher
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Laura_le_fay
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Username: Laura_le_fay
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 08:35 pm: |
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P,
Look I've been as nice as I can as long as I can. Leave it to you to come in a stir crap up long after Bubby and Pookah have said their last words to let this ignorant conversation go.
I'm sad that this is fun for you. It isn't for me. Religion aside, at some point we have to learn to be mature. What you need, besides a spell and grammer program, is a good attitude adjustment. If you choose to keep your mind closed, you should follow suit with your mouth (or your fingers in this case). Entertainment at the expense of others is just not cool or Christain like for that matter.
That said, this will be my last post here. If you wish to belittle me any more you are very welcome to do so through the messaging system. somehow, I've a feeling you'd rather display it here for all to see. Seems to be your MO.
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Pmbulo
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Username: Pmbulo
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2008 - 01:19 am: |
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What can I say?
I’ll put it in tablet of clay
Very interesting characters and a great topic
What a discussion for me to pick!!!
Pookah72450, I have nothing to say except "Waau!!!"
Even the faithless at your words they bow,
Masturbate the mind is a message
Of a self-administered massage
Bubby, you're very eloquent even in cold snow
Captived audience frequent your show
You display your thoughts with skill
Somewhat irritating but beckoning with zeal
Njaeok, indeed you're, born with the gift of laughter,
We all have a duty to write a new chapter.
Indeed, it's very sad
That the world is mad,
Finally but not the least
Always coming with a twist:
Laura_le_fay, hahaha, since when did a question become a comment?
Confusion and insinuations in your posts vividly cement
As usual, I can see it squarely
You're always blocking inquiry
Shalom! Shalom!
Ever-loving,
Potpher
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Pookah72450
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Username: Pookah72450
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 11:31 am: |
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Ok. I call truce. I dont understand why you have to act so ugly, Bubby. I read your work and from that I gather you are a sophisticated and intelligent person. I dont want to make enemies or enmities. I dont know why anyone else would. So this will be my last post here. Have fun storming the castle! |
Bubby
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Username: Bubby
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 10:26 am: |
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ahhh the return of Pookah...personally I find your rhetoric, repulsive and abusive also.Your mind masturbating analogy is so Howard Sternish.Please clean up your act and feel free to take it on the road.I'm sure there is some remote village that is not yet familiar with your wonderful diatribe.Your eloquent mannerisms will someday be on display in the museum of forgotten words. Verbal jousting will only land you on your excrescence derriere.
Don't be a flaneur and please resume your flibbertigibbet mannerisms.I'm sure you have a captive audience awaiting your every word.Ciao-Ciao... |
Pookah72450
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Username: Pookah72450
| | Posted on Monday, May 19, 2008 - 10:03 am: |
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Just as a note... I find it interesting that except for his first post Pmbulo has a pretty good grasp of basic english. I also find it interesting how Bubby likes to be insulting and offensive but at the same time tries to apologize for it. Obviously these are 2 people who just like to masturbate thier minds trying to find some way to be irritating.... or at least that is my take on it. |
Njaeok
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Username: Njaeok
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 05:19 pm: |
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Bubba---
Sorry about that. I wasn't referring to you specifically when I said "Holier Then Thou Judgments". I was referring to the manner in which devout Christians often come across when they are trying to convince someone that their Christian belief system is the only correct belief system.
I know that sincere Christians believe that their particular flavor of Christianity is the only correct way to believe. I understand that their efforts to convert others is a labor of love. So I have no animosity toward someone trying to save my eternal soul from their perceived notion of hellfire and brimstone. I do get a little resentful about it when they get forceful in a physical manner. (i.e. the Christian inquisition or the jihadists convert or die notions).
If I in any way offended you by the use or the words "holier then thou judgments" I sincerly apologize.
Jimbo
Born with the gift of laughter, aware that the world is mad. -- Jimbo
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Bubby
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Username: Bubby
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 12:32 pm: |
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Far be it from me to make holier than thou judgements.I'm just an innocent criminal like Ben Harper.Most of the youth of today follow Hollywood as their gospel.Hollywierd always has an agenda they are pushing and as soon as you see their stereotypical characters,you realize how phoney they are.All religious people are epitomized as wacko,ill dressed,misinformed,and complete blithering idiots.
There is something to be said about movie stars that have to be told where to stand,how to speak,what to say,how to dress,what to think and most of all....smile for the camera.These idiots are the hero's of our youth,and we wonder why we are in trouble. |
Njaeok
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Username: Njaeok
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 08:51 am: |
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Hey Bubz---
I suspect there is a lot of observed fact in what you say. However I also suspect that you paint with a much too wide a brush.
Remembering some of the crazy notions that I and my peers played with in our adolescence I find little difference in the nutty notions of today.
I can well remember when the notion of eugenics was respectable. I can remember when communism was widely considered a lovely ideal. I can remember when Hitler was a hero and racist and religious dogma ran rampant. I could go on for hours but the point is that we worked out way through those childish notions.
I suspect that if we gently hold up the standard of love VS hate we will do more to avoid the potential evils of nutty notions then if we make holier then thou judgments.
Jimbo
Born with the gift of laughter, aware that the world is mad. -- Jimbo
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Laura_le_fay
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Username: Laura_le_fay
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 08:33 am: |
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P,
No sir, I am not confused about myself. I am confused about you and how you can throw such comments around then wonder why people get offended.
I'm sure you all are accustomed to such things as manners in Africa. Here, some of us try to use them, as I'm sure you do there.
Bubby, I would say that the younger generaltion is turning to the dark side and dark humor because it is more welcoming than Modern Christianity, whose followers tend to comdemn
and alienate them. You can blame it on Harry Potter all you want, but that just isn't realistic. |
Bubby
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Username: Bubby
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 07:52 am: |
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Jimbo, The younger generation has been Harry Potterized,and nothing but the dark side attracts their attention.I'm amazed at the people that use the word devil or demons in their pen name,while professing to be semi christian.The shock value takes precedent over common sense.You can see it in videos that are considered to be funny,where people are breaking bones and taking ridiculous chances to show off.Even people in wheelchairs are fair game.The role models of today are all plastic.Sick puppies come to mind. |
Njaeok
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Username: Njaeok
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 07:33 am: |
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Pmbulo---
You seek the blood of turnips.
There is no fuctional wisdom in the play acting rituals of children.
A kitten captures no prey playing with a string but the play prepares muscles for the real thing when the time comes.
If you are enchanted by spiritual rituals and belief systems you discover round about you then by all means join in and play but keep your guard up against malacious intention and deeds that would move you to the dark side of the spirit.
Jimbo
Born with the gift of laughter, aware that the world is mad. -- Jimbo
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Pmbulo
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Username: Pmbulo
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2008 - 06:02 am: |
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Please answer my questions:-
"wat prid is ther n herowoshiping demons??? Wat valuz r u trying 2 protray???"
I come from Zambia in sub-Saharan Africa. As Africans we don’t give names anyhow. Names carry meaning. By names we can pay tribute to perceived heroes. Oboma is now a popular name in Kenya for obvious reasons, being of African origin and having a go at USA presidency. Mugabe is nomore more a popular name to give your child.
My questions are sincere. I want to know. I’m glad Laura_le_fay is not sure as to what she is talking about. She seems to be confused about learning. I want to learn and I’m surprised that Laura seem to say that a person would get offended if they were to be asked about their religion or beliefs. These are straight forward questions. Why would one be tripping at them? My apologies for thinking Le Fay mean something. But at least in general names have meaning or reason for picking them. Maybe there was a reason for picking your name? Anywhere that doesn’t matter to me as much as the quest to know the answer to my two questions for now.
Pookah72450 why did you get offended at my questions. I’m I ignorant? Yes Am, and that is the more reason why I want to know. Count yourself fortunate, because you know. But at least answer my questions. It’s a pity I did not get any response from Demongirl and Dragonbee. She said, “What? Um... I chose that username while I was still a Christian and it has nothing to do with that fact that I'm Pagan.” That leaves my inquisitive mind begging:- "wat prid is ther n herowoshiping demons??? Wat valuz r u trying 2 protray???"
Shalom! Shalom!
Ever-loving,
Potpher
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Laura_le_fay
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Username: Laura_le_fay
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 10:17 pm: |
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Geeze, Pookah. That was awesome.
Bubby..., very, very nice of you. I'm hoping we can all be friends now?  |
Bubby
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Username: Bubby
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 01:00 pm: |
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Hey Pagans and Agnostics of the world...you have my most humble apollo geez...so...now I'm off to the golf course...have a great day. Bubz |
Bubby
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Username: Bubby
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 12:53 pm: |
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Ahhhh Pookie,have a happy agnostic holiday,and may you be surrounded by happy pagans and tambourines.I noticed by your profile that you are from Arkansas and are a certified poet that actually works for a living.That's two good things in your favor.I also noticed that your goatee has four more hairs on one side than the other.That may throw you off balance somewhat.I'm glad you were offended by my comments,It just validated my reason for making them.Don't you just get tired of following the status quo and enjoy bouncing off the track once in awhile?
I'm sure you will agree that following the same road ever day will limit your progress.Get mad,get angry,let it loose...now...don't you feel better? Tell Bill and Hill Audi for me...Bubz |
Pookah72450
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Username: Pookah72450
| | Posted on Friday, May 09, 2008 - 11:39 am: |
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dear Pmbulo,
I wanted to ask your comment on your first post that I saw:
"wat prid is ther n herowoshiping demons??? Wat valuz r u trying 2 protray???"
If I understood that post correctly you were asking a paganist about hero-worshipping deamons. As I understand paganism, they dont hero-worship demons. Personally I found that post of yours offensive and/or misinformed. As for the other post by Bubby:
"So Paganism is taught in our schools now?When did you start to hate Christ?In elementary school?I'm sure it was approved by the ACLU.Of course,you must be very proud of your paganism.Darwin would have loved you.After all,you descended from apes.That explains why there are so many monkeys and apes still waiting to evolve.You have my prayers,whether you want them or not."
I found this offensive and/or misinformed as well.
Finally, for anyone else who took a simple "is there anyone like me?" and wanted to run with it as an attack on beliefs, I dont believe this forum is the place for that, no matter what your beliefs are. This thread could have remained a simple thread for pagans to find each other and did not need self-righteous "christians" to butt in and interfere.
By the way, I am agnostic if you are curious. Used to be Catholic, then a baptist, then a church of christ follower until I started to wonder if any christian faith was correct. You dont need to lecture me about my beliefs and I wont lecture you about yours. the whole point of my post is-- believe what you want, but let the rest of us deal with the afterlife in the way that we choose. |
Laura_le_fay
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Username: Laura_le_fay
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 11:50 am: |
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I am going to try to respond to this the best way I can. I want you to please bare in mind that I mean no harm by whatever i am going to say. This is a computer, you can hear the kindness in my voice, you can't see me emote, and likewise. I like this discussion as well.
For the record, my own name means nothing...lol. I wshould've put more thought into it and come up with something poetic or meaningful, but I did not. Do I believe in the "fay" or the "fae"? Goodness! It would be cool if there were such things, but I just don't know. Certainly I know that I am not one. So you're wrong there, there is no meaning in my name. I just pulled it off of the top of my head. I used my actual first name, which no one ever calls me by and added " le fay". So I just assume the same for demon girl.
In the case that she was infact glorifying Demons, that is her choice, and i odn't feel that anyone should say derogatory things to people who believe i such things, and may even like them. Do I like demons....no way, not at all ( and I do believe in the concept, BTW..per proof by my own eyes).
But I can tell you that a very good friend of mine is a Lavey(sp?) Satanist. He has the best manners of anyone I've ever met. I met him at a function raising money for a childrens' hospital. I told him right off the bat at my near obsession with Jesus Christ and he totally respected that and agreed with what I had to say about Martyrs. What I mean to say is, that there is both good and bad in all people. What I meant by my last post pretaining to what Dragon bee had said was that I can see how she or he would have viewed this as an attack on one who chooses to worship demons. Whether you think the comments are inflamitory or not, they very well could be to Demongirl. You have to put yourself in others shoes and try your best to empthathise before making comments toward a person of another religion. Words can really hurt people, especially if they are young and or confused anyway.
I respect the fact that you feel that your religion was attacked. I'm sure she would feel the same way if she read the comments directed at her name.
As for casting a shadow on others and leaving alot to be desisired of my self...and whatever else you said (this is where I am trying hard not to get upset..so bare with me). I'm sorry that you feel like I have done that. I tried really hard to word my last post in a a nice way, as I meant it nicely. I can't see what I said wrong in it, and apparently no one else did either as your post is the first to take issue with it.
I apoligise..I'm not really sure specifically what I'm apoligising for, except that I have somehow offended you. |
Pmbulo
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Username: Pmbulo
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 01:46 am: |
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Dear Laura_le_fay and gragonbee,
Where I come from names mean something? I’m sure even you, you did not just randomly picked your pen names. It’s true she is not a demon. But why would she want to associate herself with demons? That is all I want to know. If she was once a Christian she knows better that glorifying demons is a direct attack on the Christian faith. I’m glad no one has attacked her in retaliation. I read through all the posts in this thread and none are hateful. So my dear Laura, why are you insinuating that there has been abhorrence towards demongirl? It’s strange how you cast a shadow on others yet you leave a lot to be desired yourselves. Judge not that thou shou not be judged is true in your conduct. I just wanted you to know that what you claimed is not true. I like this debate.
Shalom! Shalom!
Ever-loving,
Potpher
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Olliebrooks
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Username: Olliebrooks
| | Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 09:55 pm: |
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Dear laura - we have a "celtic" festival here at glen innes nsw every winter solstice - if you are ever in australia i am sure you will find plenty of pagans (me for one) there - plus the beaches are nice! love, olliebrooks. |
Laura_le_fay
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Username: Laura_le_fay
| | Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 03:36 am: |
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I too am a bit confused as to why anyone was offended. I can relate to the poster who believes in the creator god as the whom we are commanded to worship above all others.
I am assuming that Dragonbee wrote her response to defend Demongirl. And in addition to what she wrote I will say "Judge not, lest ye be judged" and "let he who is without sin cast the first stone".
It's only her Pen Name. My pen name here means
" Laura the Fairy". Trust me guys, I am no fairy. So lets all try not to take Pen names to heart.
I think Conventional Christains are very nice to want to pray for pagans. In addition I feel that we pagans should say more prayers for Conventional Christians.
P.S. who said anything about paganism being taught in schools? where did that come from? |
Creativity5363
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Username: Creativity5363
| | Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 12:25 am: |
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Dragonbee - I wanted to comment on what you wrote... I am a Christian, which means "Christ-like". I agree with you that the bashing needs to stop...Jesus was a Jew, Prophet, Good Man, King of Kings, Lord of Lords, Savior, Bright and Morning Star, Lilly of the Valley...not a Christian. Most people are confused about that issue..."Religion" is a man's unified way of praising and worshipping our Creator...There are several "Religious" ways to learn about God, the realness is the "Spiritual" aspect...it is about having a "Relationship" with Jesus. The "Holy Bible" (He Only Left You Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth) states very clear that the only way to "Come" to the Father is through Jesus Christ...other "Religions" don't teach that... some teach there is one ultimate god and then there are several more that are lesser than that one and nature is another way people "worship" ...American Indians believe in this kind of "religion"... In my belief system... The Bible is a Love letter that God divinely wrote through every author of each book. Either the Bible is ALL TRUE or ALL FALSE. The choice is mine... I believe it is all true so consequently...It has instructions on how to treat myself as well as others...without love I am a tinkling cymbol that just makes noise and I am of no use to anyone... I do want to apologize to you and anyone else here that has been offended in any way... This is not my intent...Just offering some info for you... Thanks for letting me share...Lots of Love to you....Dorrie
Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass...
It's about learning to dance in the rain!
Love Ya!
Dorrie
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Pearls4u
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Username: Pearls4u
| | Posted on Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 12:02 am: |
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Hello Dragon Lady, I am just reading your response, and I am confused as to why you think there are so many hurtful reponses, as I have just read through them, and there are one of two of all that say anything negative. I also, think that when she posed the question as to whether or not there are any other pagans out there?...she had to have known that this might bring some kind of response, in opposition to her beliefs. I do not think we should attack anyone either, and that we have free will, and make our own choices. I agree that this site would be better off to leave such topics off..so, the question sould not have been asked in the first place....if would be the same as if I would say...I am a Christian, are there any other Christians out there?...well, I am saying what I am., as she is saying that she is a pagan......
Let's all leave the topic of our religion off, and each is to their own thinking......
We should show respect for one another, and take our views to sites that are in agreement with our way of thinking and supports our beliefs.
In this case, she must accept responsibility for posting the question, and for singling out herself to be of a certain religion/belief.
Christians are attacked equally as much, as are Jews, and members representing all religions....that is life.
The glory of the Lord shines for all the world to see! We have to choice to let it shine, or go out like a candle in the wind.
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Olliebrooks
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Username: Olliebrooks
| | Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 11:49 pm: |
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Desar All, God Is Not An Israelite - christianity is the most pagan religion there is - i mean "take of this bread my body, drink of this wine my blood" - Jesus was the Most! - unconditional love, olliebrooks. |
Dragonbee
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Username: Dragonbee
| | Posted on Friday, April 25, 2008 - 11:31 pm: |
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Honestly,
After reading all of this I am saddened and appalled at the level of hurtfullness, judgement, and ignorance. pagan is a generilized term. Most pagan religions DO NOT believe in hurting people in anyway. Actually most have the utmost "golden rule" of HARM NONE ON INTENTION. I was raised christian. Now I am a druid. I do not need to explain this choice. It is mine. I do not attack anyone for their chosen religion, this would be harmful. Wether or not I agree with them does not matter. I would rather see someone with FAITH and HOPE, then someone with NONE. I have always looked into a religion to try to understand people and their faith. I have even attended a Jewish passover celebration. I found this to be an enlightening experience. I believe that before judging someone, to investigate. There is one damning factor in human history, kill what you fear or do not understand. History is full of this one mistake of ignorance. That which humans do not understand we attack or kill. This is so sad. I plead with everyone lets practice a little peace and human KINDNESS. Have a common respect for those that share this beautiful site of words and expression. Don't let ignorance start war. And certainly don't hurt others over religion, Our past has proven this only hurts us not help us. Peace, light, and love. "God is to big to fit into one religion" Many cultures, many beliefs, many religions. "Dragon Lady"
*Dragon Lady*
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