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ALIANNE OUSSAMEUR (Alianne)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 01:33 pm: | 
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MICHAEL:with this part of your posting, I agree completely
"they have learnt and grown in Gods wisdom and love to better understand his word. Anyone who lets there love and wisdom grow in God are truely remarkable and honourable humble men/woman God bless these people". |
Michael .P (Mik3y)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 07:01 am: |
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I couldn't agree more..i can see the catholic church for one doing this realising that they must accept that God has manifested and revealed himself in different ways to people. We don't say go off and join any religion you like..we just simply acknowledge that we have a large sum of truth given to us from God. The other important thing is how men never changes the word of God in the Catholic church only they grow in the spirit to new more informed understandings of God with his grace and help in his timming. For instance i haven't seen any Catholic encouragement to go and start a massive crusade killing all the muslims etc..they have learnt and grown in Gods wisdom and love to better understand his word. Anyone who lets there love and wisdom grow in God are truely remarkable and honourable humble men/woman God bless these people.
Michael william James
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ALIANNE OUSSAMEUR (Alianne)
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| | Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 10:39 am: |
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TJADEN: YOUR words of wisdom "but instead, relying on their own "great intelligence" only led them deeper into the darkness." THAT IS WHY THE BIBLE SAYS THAT WE MUST RELY ON EVERY UTTERANCE OF YAWEH
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Jim Armstrong (Njaeok)
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 05:37 pm: |
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TJ--
Right on!!
The use of the word "carnal" kind of threw me at first but the context in which it was used gave it the proper meaning.
Jimbo |
Tjaden (Tjaden)
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| | Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 04:46 pm: |
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"No human mind is capable of finding the Truth of G-d through carnal thoughts or reasoning alone. If it could, then the famous Greek "thinkers" and philosophers of ancient times, should have easily discovered and been followers of the True G-d - but instead, relying on their own "great intelligence" only led them deeper into the darkness."
It is always darkest just before the dawn, as the saying goes. I could not begin to imagine the sort of fearsome rage that percolated in the minds of the ancient Greeks once their intellect forbade them to explain this beautiful creation with the simple dietetic reasoning of the ancient Mesopotamians and Egyptians who came before them. g-d knew that we would not fully understand His creation through carnal thinking and reasoning alone. He gave us science and math to allow us, (in His infinite grace, I might add), to come to understand that which was so alien to us and give us the ability to someday love all creation. The Greeks found g-d's creation quite confounding and so did not fall into darkness so much as discover how much darkness has surrounded their understanding of the world. The Lord woulda killed us if He gave us the full light of His truth too early. I believe He is leading us to the light slowly so that our people might fully savor the beauty of His creation and through that appreciation, come to see each other as equally important parts in an unknowable "master plan" of the Lord's. |
Tanya Morris (Wildabandon)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 09:21 am: |
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Norene,
First of all I am sorry that you had to go through that ..its sad that some people get so upset and defensive when it comes to talking about spiritual things..Many are just not open to sharing spiritual discussions with others of their own faith..I hate to say this but even within my own religion..I have come across people like that and I find it sad..But I have learned through the years and through my studies that no other person is going to get me to heaven..It is my relationship with Our heavenly Maker that will determine that outcome and so many are too busy looking at the faults of others to see their own shortcomings.
Everyones relationship with God is special and personal and not everyone will have the same relationship..but God is there and always will be there..I have said this to some one before in another discussion but I will mention it again here just as food for thought and for consideration for anyone interested..There are some very good books out there that I find are very powerful enlightening books..
They are called..The Great Controversy, Steps To Christ and Desire of Ages.. I have read them and they are very good..I'm not trying to force anyone to read them , it truly is a personal choice..its just the name of some books that I would recommend for anyone who has a desire to read them..
HUGS and peace to all
Tanya |
Jim Armstrong (Njaeok)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, July 09, 2003 - 12:44 am: |
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Norene---
Perhaps you are not aware that there are many who are fearful of honest sincere discussion of spiritual things. Such folks will mount a vicious attack at the first hint of reasonable discussion of the thing they fear because such discussion is certain to expose their malicious intent.
Be of good cheer my friend. This place is mostly free of such malicious intent and the angels here watching over this place keep it that way.
Jimbo |
Theresa S. (Tess)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 05:29 pm: |
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Norene, I really am sorry this happened as well! Hugs honey! You know what dear, you go ahead and open a thread and pose that question to us here! We will not all agree on the answer, but I will assure to it that we can talk about it and discuss it like civil minded folk!
At this site, we welcome spiritual discussion from all faiths! And we don't allow the cursing! Our only rule is to respect the fact that we all have different backgrounds and we may disagree!
I will tell you this, in spite of our wide variety of religious back grounds here, we are usually able to discuss a bit! And by golly, we actually learn from one another! Course we do get a few who well, you know. But we handle them!
To give you an example, Anita and I do not share the same faith, but we got to talking, and we were both a bit amazed at some of the beliefs we do share! And I really think we learned a lot from each other! True, we did a lot of it by email, but it was this area that made us start talking! It was truly a most positive interchange!
My only stipulations for this area is that when we discuss, we respect one another. We are a site with people of many faiths. And faith runs deep. Offer an open ear, and we will be glad to talk about such things.
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Anita Stith Tafolla (A_r_tafolla)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, July 08, 2003 - 12:43 am: |
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It's always amazed me that people using obscenities to attack think that it says something about those they attack, rather than clearly picturing their own nature.
"The Opposite of War isn't Peace, it's Creation."
Jonathan Larson
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gloria lee sarasin (Gloriasarasin)
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| | Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 08:52 pm: |
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I'm sorry this happened to you,Norene. I'm just happy it didn't happen to you here at the starlite. No one should ever be attacked for their beliefs whether or not we agree with them or not. For them to have used vulgarity makes what you experienced even sadder. gloria |
Norene Jensen (Dovetail)
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| | Posted on Monday, July 07, 2003 - 04:29 pm: |
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Dear Friends,
I went into a forum, yesterday, that was a religious discussion in a chat room. I have not had the experience of a chat room. This was my first. I asked a question that was general. I, also asked that members not use vulgarity in this forum. I was pretty well ousted/ostracized from the chat room. Members stated that I would have to use a language filter, if I didn't want the bad language. It was not a safe place for me, and as I was searching how to get out of there, there were several who had a hay day with vulgar language and innuendos just to shock me. There were a few who were very kind and I did make a friend out of the ordeal. Culture and religion were attacked. It was so sad. I am glad that I am in a safe place, here with you. I will take the time to participate in the discussion after I have read all of your feelings. Respectfully, DoveTail And, you are dying to know the question I asked in the chat room, aren't you. It was this...."Do you believe that God and Jesus are two separate persons?" I am not trying to get off of the topic. I just wanted to let you know how general of a question it was and I was attacked to hyena.
Dove
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Skybrush (Skybrush)
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| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 05:57 pm: |
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"My Oak Tree"...Mark, your words are a sermon from the heart that touches the soul. Yes, the way I see it, that Oak Tree can be any thing in your life that draws you nearer the goal. The idea, even for a short time, is removal of life’s stumbling blocks and going without interference, straight for the gusto.
SkyBrush
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mark goodway (Markg)
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| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 01:38 pm: |
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My oak tree? I like this symbolism. My oak tree is the sky. Ever since I can remember at 'watershed moments' in my life I lie on my back in a field and gaze into the sky. A summer day is best for this with blue sky and a few innocent fluffy clouds quietly floating right to left, left to right. I find it puts everything into perspective, regardless of circumstances.
God has been very real to me since the age of 15 but still sometimes He feels a million miles away and for no apparent reason. Gazing into the sky, taking time out to do this gives me great comfort. It reminds me of the splendor of it all, the magnitude of the creation all around us. I feel so humble yet so very blessed at the same time. I am reminded that life is so precious and we are bestowed with an awesome responsibility, to each other, and to ourselves not to cheapen this fantastic gift we have been given by putting others down or allowing circumstances to get us down.
It's amazing when you really think about it. We have been given all that we need to make our lives sing and dance. We have the capacity to bring such joy and happiness into the lives of those around us regardless of anything else if we want to. It is a conscienceous decision that we make all by ourselves and is independent of husband, wife, job, neighbour, finances, illness even.
I really like the blueprint for life given in the sermon on the mount by Jesus. Regardless of your belief system, I can't imagine anyone not hoping that this picture of life one to another is achieveable.
It's when our lives reflect this kind of natural behaviour (i.e. not put on or worked up) and love for those around us that others will start to take notice and genuniely want to know why we are like we are. This is how you show others God's love and kindness. If we don't fully poccess it first ourselves how can we give it or teach it to others?
Sorry, this is a long post for me but I've just come back from the field and am in reflective mood. God bless you all 
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Martin Howard (Martin)
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| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 10:41 am: |
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Jim,
If this is applicable: I've read your "Creation's Patterns" quite a few times, and
find the poetic quality to be excellent. Every time I reread it, I get this sudden candid sense of a, larger than life, spiritual connection. Frankly, I thought my personal response to this particular writing was maybe...lone and seperate from many others. Most often, I ignore any self
attempts to evaluate the intention of the writer,
to view a poem in a sole and unattatched form.
Bypassing grammatical critique, I usually read poetry in a desperate quest of inspiration. Today, you've opened my eyes to the many facets on the part of the writer, which I can now have a better understanding of.
Martin |
Kevin Adkisson (Writeblind)
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| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 08:15 am: |
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Tess,
I am not teetering a bit on the issue. I am unable to fully speak what I believe because it offends people. This leaves me unable to fully answer the question.
I can say that there is only one way to read the literal translation and there is only one way to read the revelations through symbolism and that the two never contradict one another. The final authority for interpretation is the Bible itself. The revelations are given by the Holy Spirit in His timing. New revelations have been revealed even today. Purely as an example of how this can be, many things we have now did not exist when the Bible was written and therefore could not be revealed until that thing existed. Some scriptures are to be read one way or the other and some can be read both ways.
Examples:
Thou shalt not steal. Exodus 20:15
Obviously this scripture is to be taken literally.
In 1 Corinthians 3:2, Paul said, "I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able."
Obviously not meant to be taken literally. Obviously the Apostle Paul did not feed the people milk that they were unable to bear. Paul did not communicate with just literal meanings of words. He also spoke often in a symbolic manner. 1 Corinthians 3:2 is a sample of very simple spiritual symbolism. Paul preached very simple messages at Corinth and held back the more complex truths. You will not find any deep spiritual "meat" in Paul's letters to the "church of G-d at Corinth."
Here are some other very simple examples of symbolism:
The spiritual meat or manna was a type of Christ as the word of G-d. (I Cor. 10:3; John 6:31-63).
Preaching is symbolized by planting and watering (I Cor. 3:6-8).
Leaven is a symbol of malice and wickedness. Unleavened bread is a symbol of TRUTH. (I Cor. 5:6-8) see also John 6:24-64.
Oxen are symbols of G-d called and sent preachers. (I Cor. 9:9-10)
A crown is a symbol of victory in the Christian race. (I Cor. 9:25)
The children of Israel a spiritual, symbolic picture of Christian people. (I Cor. 10:1-11; Rom. 2:28-29; Gal. 3:16 & 29).
(Message edited by writeblind on June 20, 2003)
Kevin
If you can see, what others can't find; then either you are mad, or they are blind.
~Louis Lord
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Jim Armstrong (Njaeok)
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| | Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 12:29 am: |
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Martin & Sky---
I have had a couple of experiences which seemed to me at the time to be somehow connected to the eternal.
The words we have to express ourselvs seem so trivial as compared to the reality that I have never been satisfied with my attempts to write it until a fellow poet insisted I post one of my attempts. I could only think to call it "patterns". I am still unsatisfied but it was as close as I could get.
If I could I would love to be able to enter that expreience at will but it seems to sneak up on me when I least expect.
Jimbo |
Martin Howard (Martin)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 11:56 pm: |
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Skybrush,
I am compelled to take the message of the oak tree....and have experienced such revelations on many, many occasions, over a wide span in the years of my life. From childhood to the age of 52 I have found these experiences to be of a oneness and very consistent- accomplished only in the absence of distracting thought an in complete solitude.
On one occurance in 1982, in the dark of night, I did physically see the heavens open up. I did physically see Jesus Christ on the cross, for almost an hour and a half. It was not in the form of a vision or translucent apparition, but in the clear and precise physical realm of the supernatural. To say the least, I was- and am still completely overwhelmed....and will never be able to explain, with words, the fullness, power and eternal nature of this experience.
I do have to say that, the message of the mighty oak is in exact correlation with this experience. I speak not these words to evangelize,
but to thank you for your confirmation in the
volumes of your understanding and insight.
Martin |
Theresa S. (Tess)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 05:21 pm: |
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Kevin,
I think one of the things Dad was alluding to was a post you made in the area about discussing the literary merits of the scriptures from all faiths.
You said:
NEW hidden symbolic messages and spiritual wisdom continues to be revealed.
However in past discussions you have maintained that there is only one way to read what was said. If that holds true, should not that one way be the same way it always was? So how can there be NEW hidden symbolic messages? They aren't new, they have always been there, if such exist.
Who is the final and utmost authority on what these words mean? I find you teetering a bit on this issue. Just who in your opinon has the ears to hear?
And don't tell me only G-D. Because this G-d created us all. He made us imperfect. So why would he put his guidelines down in ink in such a way that these creatures he created would never agree on what they truly meant?
Why pit us against each other? I mean so many have died over religious differences. This in my mind, is folly. Folly to the degree that it could only be created by human kind. As I am sure that G_d never ever intended such a thing.
I am glad that you are trying to respect people at this area more. I really appreciate that. But please do not think you can't say what you really think here. You can say it! But as you know, some of us will have opinions that differ! And I think for one who really wants to grow in their knowledge of spiritual things, this is a good thing. We will not let you say "because" and then dismiss us.
We urge you to look into your soul and your own faith to answer questions we may ask. And I should think this little exercise should help you to grow in the faith that you have. We are not here in any attempt to take your faith from you.
But we are here. And per chance, G-d put us here for a reason.
Back to the Oak trees that Skybrush speaks of. The ones he doesn't get to go and sit under much these days.
Kevin in your answer to the challenge, I would ask you, and where is Kevin in the picture?
As for myself, under the mighty gnarled oak, I see eternity. I see a oneness with this place and a need to belong in the here and now, and that which has happened before me. I feel a need to belong here in the future, when my body is gone. I see acorns falling and sprouting and growing into new oaks.
In that tree, I see God directly. I do not see Jesus. I do not see Mohammed. I do not see the pope. I do not see Martin Luther, Joseph Smith, William Booth, Wesley, Calvin, Buddah, et. al.
In that tree I see the way things were meant to be. Before we all started to mess around with them.
That tree is God speaking to us. In the most simple idiom possible.
And that tree makes me feel happy to be a part of this world. Because it reminds me of the beauty behind all manner of things.
Oh and Mark, it is so good to have you join us in these discussion! I truly enjoy reading what you have to say!
And Anita, well honey you know how much I love to hear you speak! You don't just talk the talk, you walk the walk!
And as we continue, let us remember the words: Come let us reason together. Even if it does chap our hides a time or two! We are talking and thinking and feeling. And that can't be all bad.
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Kevin Adkisson (Writeblind)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 04:07 pm: |
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I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of G-d.
Kevin
If you can see, what others can't find; then either you are mad, or they are blind.
~Louis Lord
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Skybrush (Skybrush)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 03:35 pm: |
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Kevin, I issue a challenge, less the history lesson. Sit down under the spreading branches of a mighty Oak, as far from the city distractions/noises, life/debate that you can find, I have such a place. Close your eyes; listen with your heart and soul. There is a message under that Oak that stands incongruent with your message, Not a message of prophecy or confrontation but in all simplicity, a message of oneness with all that ever was or ever will be.
Tell me this is a false message and I will say you may be looking for apples from a mighty tree of acorns.
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Skybrush (Skybrush)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 03:31 pm: |
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I issue a challenge, less the history lesson. Sit down under the spreading branches of a mighty Oak, as far from the city distractions/noises, life/debate that you can find, I have such a place. Close your eyes; listen with your heart and soul. There is a message under that Oak that stands incongruent with your message, Not a message of prophecy or confrontation but in all simplicity, a message of oneness with all that ever was or ever will be.
Tell me this is a false message and I will tell you may be looking for apples from a mighty tree of acorns.
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Anita Stith Tafolla (A_r_tafolla)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 03:28 pm: |
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I can understand that some may have a spiritual gift which allows the Spirit to guide them to complete understanding of a biblical passage. However, the problem I have is the person knowing if it is a true gift or one deceptively placed by Satan, who loves to confuse man by imitations of spiritual gifts. My own personal check for real gifts is that they have positive outcomes rather than causing dissension and personal confusion.
I believe in spiritual gifts and have some myself - I am not going to discuss which in this post or later ones. I don't think it appropriate to this forum. I mention it only because they are not always available, and sometimes I misinterpret them. I rarely, if ever, make decisions based upon such gifts - but they do provide direction in further investigation.
"The Opposite of War isn't Peace, it's Creation."
Jonathan Larson
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Kevin Adkisson (Writeblind)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 02:55 pm: |
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No human mind is capable of finding the Truth of G-d through carnal thoughts or reasoning alone. If it could, then the famous Greek "thinkers" and philosophers of ancient times, should have easily discovered and been followers of the True G-d - but instead, relying on their own "great intelligence" only led them deeper into the darkness.
"For our knowledge is imperfect and our prophecy is imperfect; but when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away. When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became a man, I gave up childish ways. For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood." (1 Corinthians 13:9-12 RSV)
The apostle Paul was a brave not only for the things that he did in his time, but for the things that he said, and wrote, for all time. Brave, and honest - to others, and to himself.
Almighty G-d is perfect. The Words of G-d are perfect. Jesus Christ is perfect. The Holy Bible is perfect. But, because humans are not perfect, our translations and understanding of all that was originally written is not perfect either. If it were, everyone with the Ears To Hear would completely agree with the full meaning of every verse. As it is, human reasoning, which is largely based upon our own personal experiences and situation, often makes up the shortfall, hence all of the different, and usually self-accommodating, interpretations and beliefs.
Despite having been given, through The Holy Spirit, to write so much of The Bible record, Paul knew full well that even his own understanding of G-d was, as he said, like seeing "in a mirror dimly" of all that there is to know and understand. If Paul himself did not fully understand what G-d was writing, through him, how could anybody, then or now, claim perfection?
Only G-d is perfect. Only G-d has the right to judge people. And He will.
"Now while Paul was waiting for them at Athens, his spirit was provoked within him as he saw that the city was full of Idols. So he argued in the synagogue with the Jews and the devout persons, and in the market place every day with those who chanced to be there." (Acts 17:16-17 RSV)
Athens was the capital of Attica, a region of Greece in ancient times. It was there that the apostle Paul found himself on one of his missionary journeys.
Paul discovered that the city was quite idolatrous, but with a great altar to the "unknown god." He then set about to make known to the carnal-minded philosophical "thinkers" of the city the True G-d - with opposition, and some success.
"Some also of the Epicurean and Stoic philosophers met him. And some said, "What would this babbler say?" Others said, "He seems to be a preacher of foreign divinities" - because he preached Jesus and the resurrection." (Acts 17:18 RSV)
They apparently caught Paul on one of his better days. Paul had a rather intense personality, and would usually have risen to being called a "babbler" with a response that the name-caller would not have soon forgotten. This day however, he remained (no doubt with the help of G-d's Holy Spirit) calm and collected.
"And they took hold of him and brought him to the Areopagus [also known as Mars Hill, saying, "May we know what this new teaching is which you present? For you bring some strange things to our ears; we wish to know therefore what these things mean." Now all the Athenians and the foreigners who lived there spent their time in nothing except telling or hearing something new." (Acts 17:19-21 RSV)
With quiet respect, Paul managed to get them to listen:
"So Paul, standing in the middle of the Areopagus, said: "Men of Athens, I perceive that in every way you are very religious. For as I passed along, and observed the objects of your worship, I found also an altar with this inscription, 'To an unknown god.' What therefore you worship as unknown, this I proclaim to you. The G-d who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in shrines made by man, nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He himself gives to all men life and breath and everything. And He made from one every nation of men to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their habitation, that they should seek G-d, in the hope that they might feel after Him and find him. Yet He is not far from each one of us, for 'In Him we live and move and have our being'" (Acts 17:22-28 RSV)
Paul then referred to some of their own writers who managed to realize that the Creator exists:
"as even some of your poets have said, 'For we are indeed his offspring.' Being then G-d's offspring, we ought not to think that the Deity is like gold, or silver, or stone, a representation by the art and imagination of man. The times of ignorance G-d overlooked, but now He commands all men everywhere to repent, because He has fixed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom He has appointed, and of this He has given assurance to all men by raising Him from the dead." (Acts 17:28-31 RSV)
His strategy of calm logic to present The Truth of God began to sow the seeds of success:
"Now when they heard of the resurrection of the some mocked; but others said, "We will hear you again about this." So Paul went out from among them. But some men joined him and believed, among them Dionysius the Areopagite and a woman named Damaris and others with them." (Acts 17:32-34 RSV)
I am no Paul...
Kevin
If you can see, what others can't find; then either you are mad, or they are blind.
~Louis Lord
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Jim Armstrong (Njaeok)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 02:16 pm: |
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Sky---
Kevin is absolutly correct. The dualism of the bible (spititual interpretation), is the authority used by the catholic church to proclaim the pope infallable, to initiate things like the inquisition and the crusades. Other christian sects and demonations use it to authorize their particular brand of spiritual dogma both militant and passave. Each is sincerly convinced that they have recieved some spiritual epiphany from the diety or from some spiritual representive of the diety and you are not going to talk them out of it. After all, you can't expect someone to return to being a mere human being once they have been elevated to the position of a messenger of god.
As Kevin quoted from (1 Corinthians 2:11-14 RSV), to us ordinary folks it is just so much folly.
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Skybrush (Skybrush)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 01:36 pm: |
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A proclamation of the Spirit evidently supercedes the supposedly inherent simplicity of the written word changing them into tomes of secret interpretations. Evidentially this proclamation of the Spirit allows you to step beyond these unchangeable verbatim text, rendering them changeable. Or maybe I have missed something in your text, or maybe I just have not found the correct Rosette Stone. But for sure, I cannot get much simpler than this.
“If you can see, what others can't find; then either you are mad, or they are blind.”
~Louis Lord ~
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Kevin Adkisson (Writeblind)
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| | Posted on Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 09:02 am: |
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Skybrush,
I am not quite sure what you asking me about. So before I go and offend a great number of people by fully responding, why don't you give me an example of what you are talking about or ask your question in another way.
Just so you know, at this point I assume you are taking issue with my belief in the dualism of the bible. (The literal interpretation of scripture and the revelation that comes from the Holy Ghost through symbolism that is the Word of G-d.)
Revelation through symbolism is based in part upon the following scripture and is very common throughout Christianity along with literal interpretation...
"So also no one comprehends the thoughts of G-d except the Spirit of G-d. Now we have received not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit which is from G-d, that we might understand the gifts bestowed on us by G-d. And we impart this in words not taught by human wisdom but taught by the Spirit, interpreting spiritual truths to those who possess the Spirit. The unspiritual man does not receive the gifts of the Spirit of G-d, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned." (1 Corinthians 2:11-14 RSV)
Kevin
If you can see, what others can't find; then either you are mad, or they are blind.
~Louis Lord
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