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Michael .P (Mik3y)
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Username: Mik3y
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 04:24 am: | 
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Very wise words Ebon.... similar to what i was trying to share with everyone but your way was alot simpler. My point there is no way we can possibly define nothing acutely so why bother. Lets just take it as we say it and nothing more!
Michael william James
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Ebon Lupus (Ebon_lupus)
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Username: Ebon_lupus
| | Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 02:26 pm: |
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It's probably never a good idea to be so literal that the point is lost. I think we all understand what is meant when we say, "nothing." Which according to some scholars is all there is to say.
Ebon Lupus
soulpoem.com
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Michael .P (Mik3y)
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Username: Mik3y
| | Posted on Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 05:37 am: |
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Nothing = Something
Because Nothing Doesn't exist. Im lead to believe That God made us from nothing... which is probably why we have no real solid conception on what nothing is because it simply doesn't exist in our minds we've no place for it.
Michael william James
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Jim Armstrong (Njaeok)
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Username: Njaeok
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 07:30 pm: |
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Ebon---
I pretty much agree with the things you say. I have some reservations concerning the manner in which you say them.
From my prespective to be religously for or against something has little to do with principle. It has more to do with dogma which is, (from my point of view), the antithesis of principle.
Nothing is not a principle. Nothing is nothing.
Nothing is not the opposite of something. The opposite of any something is some other thing that is diametrically opposed.
Jimbo
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Ebon Lupus (Ebon_lupus)
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Username: Ebon_lupus
| | Posted on Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 05:34 pm: |
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I have read the Tao Te Ching and the I Ching for many years now. I have also read the Bible, the Kabala, the Vedas, much of the Koran, and lots of spiritual and esoteric things along my way here. I believe the Tao Te Ching holds the basic underlying theme of most religions... minus the attempted control through threats of divine retribution. But in the end I think that if there is a right or wrong thing to have faith in then it lies solely in one’s personal perspective… and in what metaphor of truth a person can most relate to.
I think everyone is religious in one way or another. Boiled down, religion means to be devoted to a principle. Some people are devoted to nothing and make their devotion quite clear when they are not tolerated for it. Nothing is a principle, just as any other when it comes to living life; it means I want to live moment to moment without rules and obligations. Some of the most religious people I've met are in fact atheist... totally devoted to bad mouthing God and his or her worshipers at every opportunity.
I consider myself a Taoist and I believe in God… although I think the divine spirit had rather we improve ourselves on our own terms and not because some rich gold and jewel plated shine topped with some man spewing anger and threats badgers us into it. We each need to seek our own path… and if there is a hell I think we’re already there… trying to find our way out of it.
Ebon Lupus
soulpoem.com
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CEEJ (Carljohn)
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Username: Carljohn
| | Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 09:20 am: |
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Does anybody else read the Tao ti Ching? I'd like to know if you think it is about spirituality. I think it is about the fundamentals of reality. I consider myself taoist but not religious. Am I kidding myself? Hmm? |
