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ALIANNE OUSSAMEUR (Alianne)
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Username: Alianne
| | Posted on Friday, August 26, 2005 - 06:59 pm: | 
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SAT:YOU GOT THE NAME STRAIGHT AND YAHWEH IS THE Father we are taught to worship by Jesus NO OTHERS
YOUR POSTING:in genesis 1:1, in the beging there was the word, and the word was God" in the ancient aramaic text, that word was yahwe... you get the picture... |
Satanic Inc (Satanic_inc)
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Username: Satanic_inc
| | Posted on Monday, July 25, 2005 - 01:35 am: |
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Faith works alone, religion works with many. The question is how many of you are there? Hopefully its one. As Scott said, the true god, bringer of life is everywhere. Go to a forest and observe things with out thousands of people arround you... and at a point of time you can see how pointless things are in the world outside from those trees. The best temple of worship you have is yourself, or nature arround you.
I'm shackled to this alter
sacrificed to their God
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ALIANNE OUSSAMEUR (Alianne)
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Username: Alianne
| | Posted on Sunday, July 24, 2005 - 09:27 am: |
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"enlightening the world to the truth of love "
LOVE, such a small four letter word but ohhh! so powerful. We speak of love but what if we put it into action??? What a beautiful world this could be. There would be no more hatred, no more prejudice, no more wars, no more crime,no more fear, no more boundaries separating people from one another.Can you think of all the good that could be acheived if love was put into practice??? A very wise man said that love was the whole law. |
Tjaden (Tjaden)
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Username: Tjaden
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 01:20 pm: |
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Thanks Mr. Powers. Thing is, I don't think I question my faith anymore. What I question is whether or not the church acts, or has ever acted, in the name of god in a true sense. I'm beginning to believe that the church is in fact the false prophet spoken of so many times by Jesus and described by Revelations. Said in the Book that a beast would rise from the sea, (Jung sez that's the collective human unconcious, by the by), and would devour us. I can't help but imagine that the church is a game, and a business; let me try to clarify myself here. I don't see how Word can ever be touched by politics and still be seen as "The Word". The Word to me is a simple way of describing a concept to vast for me to hold all at once; when politics place any obstruction on the Word, the Word is no longer The Word, as the Word is infinite and cannot be confined, if it is truly the Word. I therefore conclude that anyone placing a block on the Word for any reason other than enlightening the world to the truth of love is inherently "evil", (won't even go into my take on evil), and should be viewed with extreme suspicion. Jeez. Look at me. Speech is utterly useless in the end. All parts add up to the same whole, so why divide the whole in the first place? Why not accept the totallity of "the Lord" and revel in it? We all hate war. Look at the celebrations that happen after a war. Peace is our "natural" state. Why the hell don't we just live that way? Because certain powers are falsifying the Word and pillaging the Bible for political gain. Cause, effect.
Much Love,
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Larry Jackson Powers II (Conjurico)
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Username: Conjurico
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 03:14 pm: |
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Tjaden, that kind of word-play is a normal sign of someone whose faith is undergoing growing pains. It's a time of serious questioning, not just of other people but of ourselves, our understanding of our place in the world we live in, our relationship to the universe. It's the "dark night of the soul", and it is dark. But it doesn't last forever. If you give yourself permission to question, and to look in every corner for answers, you'll find that the night passes, and you'll awaken to a whole new understanding.
People may look at you like you're crazy, at times. You may wonder about your own sanity. But it's all a normal part of what happens when your conception of the universe and the way it works is shaken to its core. Don't worry. You might go down many blind alleys, as you look for a way out of that labyrinth, but that's okay too. When you get out, you'll be stronger for the experience of your failures than you would have been, if you had never gotten lost in the first place.
Just hold on to the truth, guy. Like the song says, "Hold on loosely, but don't let go..." Be gentle with yourself.
Good luck in your search.
--Larry
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Tjaden (Tjaden)
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Username: Tjaden
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 10:24 am: |
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Was on purpose. I did say the "word" of god. I was playing with it and said, "The World" of god, and went on to admonish myself for adding or detracting from the bible. |
Scott Whitmore (Emhotep)
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Username: Emhotep
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 10:26 pm: |
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}I do agree
with You Tjaden upon this subject matter, it's the
way things have become that EVERYONE KEEPS IN ONLY
that which shall make their point while tossing or
covering up anything that might DETRACT from their
own POLITICAL GAINS. I am sick of evangalists who
wear $ 500.00 suits telling everyone to GIVE ALL
YOUR MONEY TO THEIR CAUSE & THEN YOU ARE GOING TO
HAVE YOUR PLACE IN HEAVEN, Jesus Christ preached
the Gospel dressed in rags Moneys or Politics had
NOTHING TO DO with his path. By the way Tjaden at
the end of your post, you used the " THE WORLD "
it should be "THE WORD IS GOD " sorry to critique.
Scott Whitmore
zanthor2691@aol.com
Ona Gwe, Waki
Wm Scott Whitmore
aka
Em~Hotep
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Jim Armstrong (Njaeok)
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Username: Njaeok
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 06:07 pm: |
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Keep the faith in the creator my friend. It grows as you walk this path. Its a rough path but you come to a fork pretty soon and you choose between going deeper into the past notions of divinity or looking for the footprints of God on your own. I went off on my own and its been a lonely path but rewarding in finding the footprints I was searching for. I suspect I would have taken the other path had I not been something of a loner anyhow. I have been told that the footprints of God are anywhere you sincerly search for them.
Jimbo
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Tjaden (Tjaden)
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Username: Tjaden
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 02:47 pm: |
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I'm in a bad place. My faith, while not exactly shaken, has come under severe questioning once more. I have come to see, through various readings and news programs, that organized religion is the cause of all of our woes these days. Organized religion. Not faith. There is a difference. Organized religion is a singular false prophet on a grand scale. When the beauty and simplicity of both seeking and seeing faith and the truth of love is mired in dogma and politically motivated doctrine, the word loses its meaning. The word loses meaning in words. In the beginning The "word" was with god, and the "word" was god. That's some pretty deep stuff there. Christ was closest so far to understanding what that truly meant. He managed to trancend the "evil" of language to find god in a nameless state. He rose above us, but not before showing us the way. Funny thing is, he was so tuned in that he could actually maintain recognizable patterns of speech long enough and powerfully enough for those speeches to be recorded. He used language to trancend it.
My faith is in question, but not by any means diminished. I question now more the motivations of my clergymen, and those that run the men who run my country, more than I question god's existence. that's not a question. The world exists. God exists. The word was with god, the word was god.
I want to know why the clergy speaks so much these days on matters unrelated to teaching people how to define their faith. Seems like ministers are involved in ever political scene across the globe. Seems like faith should be right there, right next to the action, helping it decide how to go, which would imply that peace would be the rule, and yet, warfare proliferates. My point being, I think faith is nameless, and individual to the point of it being totally inclusive of all people willing to take it that far. Placing parameters around faith is the same as free speech; you put one block in, the whole caboddle goes to pot and becomes a battle of wit and wills, rather than a sublime acceptance of our place in the universe.
I was told by a minister recently, "the church is a business unlike any other, but is still a business." What a load of crap. John the Baptist didn't need money to get converts. Why do we need cash in our churches? Are you trying to tell me that a carpenter or a plumber won't fix a church for free? Why the hell shouldn't they? Do we need vastly elaborate places of worship, just because that's the way it's always been done? F that. Why did we ever need cathedrals? What happened to ministers eating locusts and wild honey? What happened to, "when two or more are gathered together...they are in a house of worship?" God, damn this system and the pedophiles it protects. God damn the languages that are too weak to give us true freedom. I worship you god, because you represent a holy emptiness for me. You represent a place where I'll never have to speak again, and therefore trancend my need to lie.
(How about the "world" was with god, the "world was god"? I know. I know. Thou shalt not add nor detract from these pages. I know. Doesn't that seem a bit too convienient that we can't add or detract? Seems like more of a political tool to keep people from questioning authority, like how Ra was an unchallenged god on earth or how the myths of Ancient Mesopotamia preach economic subservience through worship.) |
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