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Scott Whitmore (Emhotep)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 09, 2005 - 03:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Ko Bom-Wa' My Freinds, I found you all something to have a Further Discussion that still this date
" HAS NO EXPLAINTION FOUND AT ALL IN THE BIBLE ".
In the book of ( Gensis ) after " CAIN " KIlls his
bother " ABEL " God casts him out of the Garden of
Eden, into the land of " NOD ". Where Cain takes
his " WIFE ", just how did she get there if ADAM /
EVE /( ABEL now dead ) & CAIN were the only humans
the Bible tells us about.???
This one will
be a GREAT DEBATE QUESTION for You Allianne ( how
is your job in the TOY DEPARMENT ) & Jasmine to
haggle with Zaheer & Elliott.
I pray that
all of you stay well while I am gone.


PEACE BE UNTO YOU ALWAYS


Look Not Unto Your Circumstances.
Look Toward Your God..!


Scott Whitmore
zanthor2691@aol.com






Ona Gwe, Waki
Wm Scott Whitmore
aka
Em~Hotep
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ALIANNE OUSSAMEUR (Alianne)
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Posted on Monday, August 08, 2005 - 12:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

The clergy vs Christ's Apostles
The Papacy
An example of such glorification is that of the papacy of Rome. An ecclesiastical dictionary by Lucio Ferraris, published in Italy, describes the pope as “of such dignity and highness that he is not simply a man but, as it were, God, and the Vicar of God.” His crown is a triple crown “as king of heaven, of earth and of hell.” The same dictionary continues: “The pope is, as it were, God on earth, the only prince of the faithful of Christ, the greatest king of all kings.” It adds: “The pope can sometimes counteract the divine law.” Also, The New Catholic Dictionary states of the pope: “His ambassadors have precedence over other members of the diplomatic body.”
Unlike the disciples of Jesus, the pope often wears very elaborate garb and welcomes the adulation of humans. The pope allows people to bow to him, kiss his ring, and carry him on their shoulders in a special chair. What vanity popes have displayed over the centuries! A contrast indeed to the humble simplicity of Peter, who said to Cornelius, the Roman army officer who knelt at Peter’s feet to do obeisance to him: “Stand up, . . . I am only a man after all”! (Acts 10:25, 26, the Catholic Jerusalem Bible) And what a contrast to the angel who gave the apostle John the Revelation! John tried to bow down worshipfully to that angel, but the angel declared: “Be careful! Do not do that! All I am is a fellow slave of you and of your brothers who are prophets and of those who are observing the words of this scroll. Worship God.”—Revelation 22:8, 9.
Is this appraisal of the clergy class too strong? We can determine this by applying the rule that Jesus gave to identify false prophets: “By their fruits you will recognize them.” (Matthew 7:15, 16) What, then, has been the fruitage of the clergy over the centuries and in our own 20th century? What will be the fate of this man of lawlessness, and who will share that fate? What responsibility do those who truly fear God have in regard to this lawless one?
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ALIANNE OUSSAMEUR (Alianne)
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Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

JIMBO: THE HUMONGOUS BOAT:
Design and Size. The ark (Heb., te·vah´; Gr., ki·bo·tos´) was a rectangular chestlike vessel presumably having square corners and a flat bottom. It needed no rounded bottom or sharp bow to cut rapidly through the water; it required no steering; its only functions were to be watertight and to stay afloat. A vessel so shaped is very stable, cannot be easily capsized, and contains about one third more storage space than ships of conventional design. There was a door provided in the side of the ark for loading and unloading the cargo.

In size the ark was 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high. Conservatively calculating the cubit as 44.5 cm (17.5 in.) (some think the ancient cubit was nearer 56 or 61 cm), the ark measured 133.5 m by 22.3 m by 13.4 m (437 ft 6 in. × 72 ft 11 in. × 43 ft 9 in.), less than half the length of the ocean liner Queen Elizabeth 2. This proportion of length to width (6 to 1) is used by modern naval architects. This gave the ark approximately 40,000 cu m (1,400,000 cu ft) in gross volume. It is estimated that such a vessel would have a displacement nearly equal to that of the mighty 269-m (883 ft) Titanic of this 20th century. No cargo vessel of ancient times even slightly resembled the ark in its colossal size. Internally strengthened by adding two floors, the three decks thus provided gave a total of about 8,900 sq m (96,000 sq ft) of space.

“You will make a tso´har [roof; or, window] for the ark,” Noah was told. (Ge 6:16) Just what this was or how it was constructed is not altogether clear. Some scholars think tso´har is related to light and so they translate it “window” (KJ, Mo), “light” (AS, JP), “a place for light” (Ro). Others, however, associate tso´har with a later Arabic root meaning “back (of the hand),” “back (of a beast),” “deck (of a ship),” that is, the part away from the ground or water, and for this reason translate it “roof.” (AT, RS, JB) This tso´har, Noah was told, was to be completed “to the extent of a cubit upward.”—Ge 6:16.

It could be, therefore, that the tso´har provided for adequate light and ventilation, not just a single cubit-square “peephole,” but an opening a cubit in height near the roof and extending around the four sides to give an opening of nearly 140 sq m (1,500 sq ft). On the other hand, while still allowing an ample opening for ventilation under the roof or elsewhere, the roof could have had slightly angled sides. Regarding this possibility James F. Armstrong wrote in Vetus Testamentum (Leiden, 1960, p. 333): “‘Unto a cubit upward you shall finish it’ is difficult to understand when sohar is translated either ‘light (= window)’ or even ‘(flat) roof’. If, however, a gable-type roof be postulated, the ‘one cubit upward’ can refer to the elevation of the crease of the roof above the level of the tops of the walls. In modern architectural terms, the ‘one cubit’ would be the height of the kingposts between which the ridgepiece is laid. . . . According to the argument that has been presented, the roof of Noah’s ark was conceived as having a four per-cent pitch (1 cubit elevation — 25 cubits from wall to ridge), quite adequate to permit the water of the rains to flow off.”

Of what this huge ark was to be built was made plain by Jehovah: “Make for yourself an ark out of wood of a resinous tree [literally, trees of gopher].” (Ge 6:14) This resinous wood here prescribed is thought by some to be cypress or a similar tree. In that part of the world what today is called cypress was in abundant supply; it was particularly favored for shipbuilding by the Phoenicians and by Alexander the Great, as it is even down to the present time; and it is especially resistant to water and decay. Doors and posts made of cypress are reported to have lasted 1,100 years. In addition, Noah was told not merely to caulk the seams but to “cover [the ark] inside and outside with tar.”—See BITUMEN.

Ample Carrying Capacity. The passenger list of the ark was quite impressive. Besides Noah, his wife, his three sons, and their wives, living creatures “of every sort of flesh, two of each,” were to be taken aboard. “Male and female they will be. Of the flying creatures according to their kinds and of the domestic animals according to their kinds, of all moving animals of the ground according to their kinds, two of each will go in there to you to preserve them alive.” Of the clean beasts and fowls, seven of each kind were to be taken. A great quantity and variety of food for all these creatures, to last for more than a year, also had to be stowed away.—Ge 6:18-21; 7:2, 3.

The “kinds” of animals selected had reference to the clear-cut and unalterable boundaries or limits set by the Creator, within which boundaries creatures are capable of breeding “according to their kinds.” It has been estimated by some that the hundreds of thousands of species of animals today could be reduced to a comparatively few family “kinds”—the horse kind and the cow kind, to mention but two. The breeding boundaries according to “kind” established by Jehovah were not and could not be crossed. With this in mind some investigators have said that, had there been as few as 43 “kinds” of mammals, 74 “kinds” of birds, and 10 “kinds” of reptiles in the ark, they could have produced the variety of species known today. Others have been more liberal in estimating that 72 “kinds” of quadrupeds and less than 200 bird “kinds” were all that were required. That the great variety of animal life known today could have come from inbreeding within so few “kinds” following the Flood is proved by the endless variety of humankind—short, tall, fat, thin, with countless variations in the color of hair, eyes, and skin—all of whom sprang from the one family of Noah.

These estimates may seem too restrictive to some, especially since such sources as The Encyclopedia Americana indicate that there are upwards of 1,300,000 species of animals. (1977, Vol. 1, pp. 859-873) However, over 60 percent of these are insects. Breaking these figures down further, of the 24,000 amphibians, reptiles, birds, and mammals, 10,000 are birds, 9,000 are reptiles and amphibians, many of which could have survived outside the ark, and only 5,000 are mammals, including whales and porpoises, which would have also remained outside the ark. Other researchers estimate that there are only about 290 species of land mammals larger than sheep and about 1,360 smaller than rats. (The Deluge Story in Stone, by B. C. Nelson, 1949, p. 156; The Flood in the Light of the Bible, Geology, and Archaeology, by A. M. Rehwinkel, 1957, p. 69) So, even if estimates are based on these expanded figures, the ark could easily have accommodated a pair of all these animals.

Five months after the Deluge began, “the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat,” not likely, however, atop the uppermost peak (nearly 5,165 m; 16,950 ft), but on suitable terrain where everyone aboard lived comfortably for some months more. Finally, after a year and ten days from the time the Deluge began, the door again was opened and all aboard disembarked.—Ge 7:11; 8:4, 14.

Claims that remains of the ark have been found are as yet unconfirmed.
Design and Size. The ark (Heb., te·vah´; Gr., ki·bo·tos´) was a rectangular chestlike vessel presumably having square corners and a flat bottom. It needed no rounded bottom or sharp bow to cut rapidly through the water; it required no steering; its only functions were to be watertight and to stay afloat. A vessel so shaped is very stable, cannot be easily capsized, and contains about one third more storage space than ships of conventional design. There was a door provided in the side of the ark for loading and unloading the cargo.

In size the ark was 300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide, and 30 cubits high. Conservatively calculating the cubit as 44.5 cm (17.5 in.) (some think the ancient cubit was nearer 56 or 61 cm), the ark measured 133.5 m by 22.3 m by 13.4 m (437 ft 6 in. × 72 ft 11 in. × 43 ft 9 in.), less than half the length of the ocean liner Queen Elizabeth 2. This proportion of length to width (6 to 1) is used by modern naval architects. This gave the ark approximately 40,000 cu m (1,400,000 cu ft) in gross volume. It is estimated that such a vessel would have a displacement nearly equal to that of the mighty 269-m (883 ft) Titanic of this 20th century. No cargo vessel of ancient times even slightly resembled the ark in its colossal size. Internally strengthened by adding two floors, the three decks thus provided gave a total of about 8,900 sq m (96,000 sq ft) of space.

“You will make a tso´har [roof; or, window] for the ark,” Noah was told. (Ge 6:16) Just what this was or how it was constructed is not altogether clear. Some scholars think tso´har is related to light and so they translate it “window” (KJ, Mo), “light” (AS, JP), “a place for light” (Ro). Others, however, associate tso´har with a later Arabic root meaning “back (of the hand),” “back (of a beast),” “deck (of a ship),” that is, the part away from the ground or water, and for this reason translate it “roof.” (AT, RS, JB) This tso´har, Noah was told, was to be completed “to the extent of a cubit upward.”—Ge 6:16.

It could be, therefore, that the tso´har provided for adequate light and ventilation, not just a single cubit-square “peephole,” but an opening a cubit in height near the roof and extending around the four sides to give an opening of nearly 140 sq m (1,500 sq ft). On the other hand, while still allowing an ample opening for ventilation under the roof or elsewhere, the roof could have had slightly angled sides. Regarding this possibility James F. Armstrong wrote in Vetus Testamentum (Leiden, 1960, p. 333): “‘Unto a cubit upward you shall finish it’ is difficult to understand when sohar is translated either ‘light (= window)’ or even ‘(flat) roof’. If, however, a gable-type roof be postulated, the ‘one cubit upward’ can refer to the elevation of the crease of the roof above the level of the tops of the walls. In modern architectural terms, the ‘one cubit’ would be the height of the kingposts between which the ridgepiece is laid. . . . According to the argument that has been presented, the roof of Noah’s ark was conceived as having a four per-cent pitch (1 cubit elevation — 25 cubits from wall to ridge), quite adequate to permit the water of the rains to flow off.”

Of what this huge ark was to be built was made plain by Jehovah: “Make for yourself an ark out of wood of a resinous tree [literally, trees of gopher].” (Ge 6:14) This resinous wood here prescribed is thought by some to be cypress or a similar tree. In that part of the world what today is called cypress was in abundant supply; it was particularly favored for shipbuilding by the Phoenicians and by Alexander the Great, as it is even down to the present time; and it is especially resistant to water and decay. Doors and posts made of cypress are reported to have lasted 1,100 years. In addition, Noah was told not merely to caulk the seams but to “cover [the ark] inside and outside with tar.”—See BITUMEN.

Ample Carrying Capacity. The passenger list of the ark was quite impressive. Besides Noah, his wife, his three sons, and their wives, living creatures “of every sort of flesh, two of each,” were to be taken aboard. “Male and female they will be. Of the flying creatures according to their kinds and of the domestic animals according to their kinds, of all moving animals of the ground according to their kinds, two of each will go in there to you to preserve them alive.” Of the clean beasts and fowls, seven of each kind were to be taken. A great quantity and variety of food for all these creatures, to last for more than a year, also had to be stowed away.—Ge 6:18-21; 7:2, 3.

The “kinds” of animals selected had reference to the clear-cut and unalterable boundaries or limits set by the Creator, within which boundaries creatures are capable of breeding “according to their kinds.” It has been estimated by some that the hundreds of thousands of species of animals today could be reduced to a comparatively few family “kinds”—the horse kind and the cow kind, to mention but two. The breeding boundaries according to “kind” established by Jehovah were not and could not be crossed. With this in mind some investigators have said that, had there been as few as 43 “kinds” of mammals, 74 “kinds” of birds, and 10 “kinds” of reptiles in the ark, they could have produced the variety of species known today. Others have been more liberal in estimating that 72 “kinds” of quadrupeds and less than 200 bird “kinds” were all that were required. That the great variety of animal life known today could have come from inbreeding within so few “kinds” following the Flood is proved by the endless variety of humankind—short, tall, fat, thin, with countless variations in the color of hair, eyes, and skin—all of whom sprang from the one family of Noah.

These estimates may seem too restrictive to some, especially since such sources as The Encyclopedia Americana indicate that there are upwards of 1,300,000 species of animals. (1977, Vol. 1, pp. 859-873) However, over 60 percent of these are insects. Breaking these figures down further, of the 24,000 amphibians, reptiles, birds, and mammals, 10,000 are birds, 9,000 are reptiles and amphibians, many of which could have survived outside the ark, and only 5,000 are mammals, including whales and porpoises, which would have also remained outside the ark. Other researchers estimate that there are only about 290 species of land mammals larger than sheep and about 1,360 smaller than rats. (The Deluge Story in Stone, by B. C. Nelson, 1949, p. 156; The Flood in the Light of the Bible, Geology, and Archaeology, by A. M. Rehwinkel, 1957, p. 69) So, even if estimates are based on these expanded figures, the ark could easily have accommodated a pair of all these animals.

Five months after the Deluge began, “the ark came to rest on the mountains of Ararat,” not likely, however, atop the uppermost peak (nearly 5,165 m; 16,950 ft), but on suitable terrain where everyone aboard lived comfortably for some months more. Finally, after a year and ten days from the time the Deluge began, the door again was opened and all aboard disembarked.—Ge 7:11; 8:4, 14.

Claims that remains of the ark have been found are as yet unconfirmed.












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ALIANNE OUSSAMEUR (Alianne)
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Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 08:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

JIMBO, ABOUT THAT HUMONGOUS BOAT:
Noah spent perhaps 50 or 60 years building a huge vessel of approximately 40,000 cu m (1,400,000 cu ft) for the survival of his family and a few animals
Some investigators have said that, had there been as few as 43 “kinds” of mammals, 74 “kinds” of birds, and 10 “kinds” of reptiles in the ark, they could have produced the variety of species known today. I WILL POST OF IT'S DIMENSIONS LATER
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ALIANNE OUSSAMEUR (Alianne)
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Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 09:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

JIMBO IT MUST HAVE BEEN A HUMONGOUS BOAT!!! I LIKE SOMEONE WITH A SENSE OF HUMOUR:-):-):-)
SORRY YOU WERE FEELING LIKE CHOPPED LIVER. :-(:-(:-(
I AM FRENCH AND WHEN ONE SPEAKS TO ME THEY MUST USE PLAIN ENGLISH OR I AM LOST MON AMI. OK
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Jim Armstrong (Njaeok)
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Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 04:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

wow!!!

That was one humongous boat!!
Jimbo
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ALIANNE OUSSAMEUR (Alianne)
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Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

IS IT REALLY A CONTRADICTION OR A LACK OF UNDERSTANDING???
Contradiction #10...
How many pairs of clean animals did God tell Noah to take into
the Ark?
(a) Two

(Genesis 6:19, 20). And of every living creature of every sort of flesh, two of each, you will bring into the ark to preserve them alive with you. Male and female they will be...

(b) Seven

(Genesis 7:2). Of every clean beast you must take to yourself by sevens, the sire and its mate; and of every beast that is not clean just two, the sire and its mate...

(c) Two pairs.

(Genesis 7:8, 9) Of every clean beast and of every beast that is not clean and of the flying creatures and everything that moves on the ground, they went in by twos to Noah inside the ark, male and female, just as God had commanded Noah.

(a) IS THERE A CONTRADICTION? WHAT GOD ASKED FROM NOAH IS THAT HE TAKE INTO THE ARK TWO ANIMALS OF UNCLEAN KIND AND (B)THEN ADDED THAT HE WANTED HIM TO TAKE IN SEVEN OF EACH KIND OF CLEAN ANIMALS (FOR SACRIFICE) AND (C) THE WAY THE ANIMALS WENT UP INTO THE ARC IS IN THE FORMATION OF TWO.
TO KNOW THAT THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION WE MUST READ EVERY WORD CAREFULLY. THE CLUES ARE IN THE UNDERLINED PART OF THE SCRIPTURES.
A) IN (Genesis 6:19, 20)And of every living creature of every sort of flesh, two of each, HERE GOD IS TELLING NOAH OF ALL THE ANIMALS, I WANT YOU TO BRING IN 2 OF EVERY KIND.
B) IN (Genesis 7:2). Of every clean beast you must take to yourself by sevens, NOW GOD IS ADDING TO HIS COMMAND IN TELLING NOAH THAT HE WANTS HIM ALSO TO BRING IN SEVEN OF WHAT??? THE WORD THAT YOU MUST PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO IS "CLEAN". NOW YOU MUST ASK YOURSELF IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ANIMALS??? APPARENTLY, TO GOD THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CLEAN AND UNCLEAN ANIMALS. WHY, YOU MAY ASK? Since a flesh diet had not yet been authorized TO MAN, this distinction between clean and unclean was probably determined on the basis of what was acceptable to Jehovah as a sacrifice. (MORE INFORMATION IS PROVIDED BELOW)
(C) IN (Genesis 7:8, 9)they went in by twos to Noah inside the ark. WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO UNDERSTAND FROM GENESIS 7:8,9? IN CAREFULLY READING THE SCRIPTURE , WE WILL SEE THAT IT MEANT THAT THE ANIMALS WENT INTO THE ARC BY FORMATION OF TWOS AND THAT GOD'S WORD WAS NOT REPEATING THE NUMBER OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF THE ANUMAL TO BE KEPT ALIVE IN THE ARC.
IN CONCLUSION, WE SEE THERE IS NO CONTRADICTION AND THE LESSON LEARNED HERE IS TO PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO THE WORDS WRITTEN IN ORDER TO GET THE FULL SENSE OF THEM.

INSIGHT INTO THE SCRIPTURES
WHAT ARE Clean and Unclean Animals. A classification of animals is to be noted in God’s instructions to Noah to take with him into the ark seven of each clean animal and two of each unclean animal. (Ge 7:2, 3, 8, 9) Since a flesh diet had not yet been authorized, this distinction between clean and unclean was probably determined on the basis of what was acceptable to Jehovah as a sacrifice. Hence, on emerging from the ark, Noah knew which creatures were clean and suitable for offering upon the altar. (Ge 8:20) At that time no restriction existed with respect to the type of animals that Noah and his family could eat, as is indicated by Jehovah’s words: “Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you.”—Ge 9:3.

God’s law to the Israelites, therefore, introduced a new distinction when it classified certain animals as clean and fit for food and others as unclean and prohibited as food. The scripture specifies: “Every creature that splits the hoof and forms a cleft in the hoofs and chews the cud among the beasts, that is what you may eat.” (Le 11:3) And again: “You must eat no detestable thing of any sort. This is the sort of beast that you may eat: the bull, the sheep and the goat, the stag and gazelle and roebuck and wild goat and antelope and wild sheep and chamois; and every beast that splits the hoof and that forms a cleft into two hoofs, chewing the cud among the beasts.”—De 14:3-6.

Animals lacking one or both of the above-mentioned features were not to be eaten by those under the terms of the Law covenant. The prohibited animals included the rock badger, the hare, the pig, the camel. Also, creatures ‘going upon their paws’ were prohibited, this doubtless embracing such creatures as the lion, the bear, and the wolf.—Le 11:4-8, 26
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ALIANNE OUSSAMEUR (Alianne)
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Posted on Friday, August 05, 2005 - 10:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

YO!!! SCOTT: WE WILL MISS YOU DURING YOUR HOSPITAL STAY AND WE WILL BE THINKING OF YOU. :-):-):-)THANKS FOR YOUR SCRIPTURES
Bible reading is great but are we learning from it and bringing our lives in order with God's word. His name(Jehovah, Yahweh) was written over 7 thousand times within it's pages. Have we come to kniow it and use it and make it known to others??? A friend's name is precious to us. How precious is God's name to you??? If we cannot use it comfortably , we need to ask ourselves what sort of relationship are we having with God
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Scott Whitmore (Emhotep)
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Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

Here You
Go Allianne, I have some more SCRIPTURE for Daily
Reading. This has plenty to say everybody should
know & live their everyday world to.

Love in action and with truth

If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.

1 John 3:17,18 NIV

But my enemies are vigorous and strong,
And many are those who hate me wrongfully.

And those who repay evil for good,
They oppose me, because I follow what is good.

Do not forsake me, O LORD;
O my God, do not be far from me!

Make haste to help me,
O Lord, my salvation!

Psalm 38:19-22 NASB

The bloodthirsty hate the blameless,
But the upright seek his well-being.

A fool vents all his feelings,
But a wise man holds them back.

Proverbs 29:10,11 NKJV

Thanks be unto God for His wonderful gift:
Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God
is the object of our faith; the only faith
that saves is faith in Him.

Read Through the Bible in a Year

August 3: 2 Corinthians 2:5-3:18, 2 Kings 15-16, Micah 5:2-15

Weekly Meditation

Salvation in No Other Name

Then Peter, filled with the Holy Spirit, said to them,

"Rulers of the people and elders, if we are being examined today concerning a good deed done to a crippled man, by what means this man has been healed, let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom you crucified, whom God raised from the dead--by him this man is standing before you well. This Jesus is the stone that was rejected by you, the builders, which has become the cornerstone.

And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."

Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were uneducated, common men, they were astonished. And they recognized that they had been with Jesus. But seeing the man who was healed standing beside them, they had nothing to say in opposition.

Acts 4:8-14 ESV

I pray that all will gain from this, as I have &
go forth with this knowledege for the sake of all.
I won't be around on the 10th->19th, I have to go
check into the hospital for test to try and find out where my seizures are centered & how much I've
suffered from my strokes.


Scott Whitmore
zanthor2691@aol.com
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Ona Gwe, Waki
Wm Scott Whitmore
aka
Em~Hotep
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ALIANNE OUSSAMEUR (Alianne)
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Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2005 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post

THE BIBLE MENTIONS YAHWEH, JESUS AND HOLY SPIRIT AT DIFFERENT OCCASIONS SEPERATLY AND TOGETHER AT OTHER TIMES. THE OLD TESTAMENT HOWEVER, MENTIONS YAHWEH 8 TIMES IN THE 10 COMMANDMENTS AND LEAVES OUT JESUS AND THE HOLY SPIRIT. THE BIBLE ALSO STATES THAT JEHOVAH IS ONE ONLY ON MANY OCCASIONS. HIS WORD ALSO DESCRIBES WHO JESUS IS AND WHAT THE SPIRIT IS. IF THEY WERE THE SAME PERSON THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO MENTION THEM EVER SEPERATELY. THERE IS NO NEED TO ADD MYSTERY TO THE TRUE GOD AS HE TELLS US EXACTLY WHAT HE IS IN THE BIBLE WITHOUT THE NECESSITY OF MEN GIVING THEIR OWN INTERPRETATION OF HIM.

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