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cath (Catscanfly)
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Username: Catscanfly
| | Posted on Saturday, September 03, 2005 - 05:47 am: | 
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...what?
I am freezing and losing my way, I don't want another map of your head, Yeah. -Muse
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Michael .P (Mik3y)
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Username: Mik3y
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2005 - 04:39 pm: |
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Im glad people can see the truh, and when they do see it, know that its truth. Its brilliant, we can be miles apart from each other but still only know one truth..it never differs for any body  Isn't that great?
Michael william James
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cath (Catscanfly)
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Username: Catscanfly
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 08:20 am: |
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oh, my god.
I am freezing and losing my way, I don't want another map of your head, Yeah. -Muse
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Michael .P (Mik3y)
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Username: Mik3y
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2005 - 07:32 am: |
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And just how much of the population was educated at this point in time? Because i am refering to the majority of men. Not only that but i am only using it as one of many examples where mens thinking has developed over the years.
Not irreconcilable ?!
I don't see how you can make such claims, when its obvious for evolution to work creation had to be created some where along the end of the line. Evolution is far from fact, it is a theory, and the story of adam and eve is not meant to be taken so literally as some do. Im not saying that its myth which is full of crap..but that creation obviously did happen and surely there is alot of truth in the story but it more than likely did not happen exactly like that at all. Much like Scientists are revealed new understandings of their surroundings as are other man and women.. the Church adn science do not really change anything but grow to understand whats already there differently. For instance man believing the Earth was flat were later told that yes in part the earth is flat but as a whole it is round. Many fundamentalists broke away from the Catholic church proclaiming every word in the Bible as truth..and It is.. However been ignorant and dismissing the new understandings we have of the world and the origin of which these scriptures came isn't helping us grow at all. People can dispute it all they like..but its proven that the story of adam and eve was a myth. That doesn't mean that myths hold no truth! [Myth - A fiction or half-truth.] Its a way of explaining the natural aspects of a world. Religion doesn't differ from science much at all in this regard..For evolution is not stated as fact..but theory [half-truth] and The catholics believe anyway the same in the story of adam and eve. None of the theory for evolution is a lie is it? Well neither is the Bibles explanation. If this doesn't seem logical enough to you then maybe your idea of the faith and science is filled with propaganda.. Because both are more or less on the same page. Now, i don't have to pitch anything to you if thats what you think fine. Im simply here to discuss because i want to learn!
As to your Last comment refer to above. God didn't lie about anything. What might of been a lie is someone who may of told you the story of adam and eve happend exactly that way fundamentaly or someone just as daft or invincably ignorant said that evolution was fact and thats exactly how it happend!
I hope you see where the logic in this is going..because i really don't know how to make it any more clearer.
Michael william James
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cath (Catscanfly)
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Username: Catscanfly
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 31, 2005 - 09:56 am: |
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"we've gone from the earth is flat to the earth is round etc."
It's well documented and basically never seriously disputed that throughout history the educated classes of mankind have NEVER believed that the earth was flat. This myth is bandied around in efforts to try and illustrate that mankind is forever revising his theories on science and the nature of our condition.
As it is categorically and absolutely untrue, however, it does not really help your case.
The fact is that endless fluffy sermons, about common truths and the universal love that is god, will only get you so far.
You cannot change the fact that God's word is absolutely and wholly irreconcilable with the theory of evolution.
( i could give evidence if you would like of twenty reasons off the top of my head that i am more inclined to believe in the story of adam and eve than i am in evolution, but i dont want to bore you)
If you're interested in being taken seriously and using real methods of deducing the truth, i suggest that you opt for one or the other of the two real options by employing logical thought. the two choices cannot be mingled.
Do you really believe that God would lie about how we came into existance for no apparent reason?
I am freezing and losing my way, I don't want another map of your head, Yeah. -Muse
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Michael .P (Mik3y)
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Username: Mik3y
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 08:03 pm: |
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Actually Cath Catholics don't take every little detail in the bibe that literal. What they do take is the truth and love..the messages which God had given the writers as the Holy spirit Inspired them. No one was a robot to God. The thing is man is not 100% certain about How God created him, whether he believes in the theory of evolution or the fundamental beliefs of adam and eve. One things for sure both have alot of truth. Evolution is not anything more than a theory.. As for Adam and Eve it was a story made by men to try6 and explain who God really was and how he created us. To say that these are blind fables is just stupid though. God has revealed himself gradually to man through the years.. we've gone from the earth is flat to the earth is round etc. We'll never be able to fully comprhend God coz even when we think we're close we are miles away, because God is Huge..words can't even describe how big he is..thats why i often use the concept of "nothing" because it has no value? nope. Because we do not know much about it at all and would fail if we tried to figure it out, some things are beyond our understanding........ until of coz the creator of this matter reveals to us anything.
Michael william James
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cath (Catscanfly)
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Username: Catscanfly
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2005 - 12:27 pm: |
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Christianity is basically incompatible with evolution theory. People like to pretend otherwise, but there really is very little point in pretending that one can believe the bible and darwinist theory.
There's little mileage in saying that large portions of the biblical stories are 'metaphorical'. If you believe in god then you basically might as well believe that he did it the way he says he did it in the amount of time he says it took.
I am freezing and losing my way, I don't want another map of your head, Yeah. -Muse
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Michael .P (Mik3y)
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Username: Mik3y
| | Posted on Monday, August 29, 2005 - 07:44 am: |
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How?
Michael william James
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ALIANNE OUSSAMEUR (Alianne)
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Username: Alianne
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 11:40 pm: |
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The Word of God completely refutes it |
Michael .P (Mik3y)
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Username: Mik3y
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 09:04 pm: |
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It might refute evolution but it doesn't prove Evolution to be entirely wrong either.
Michael william James
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